Fallout: The Television Series

[BillJ]

I watched the first season, thought it was faithful to the games. My wife, a hardcore Fallout player, loves it.

 

[Set Harth]

I don't think so. I certainly wasn't a fan of the game. I've played it a (very) little but nothing major. I just enjoyed it as a fun post apocalyptic sci-fi western

Same here. I only played the opening portion of one of the games, the stuff you have to do before you leave the vault. That's it. So some of the details in the show went right past me, and other stuff from the games I only heard about in this thread.

 

[Commander Troi]

Who was the target audience mostly, fans of the games?

Another one here who never played the game, but enjoyed the first season immensely.

 

[Relayer1]

I'm not a gamer but my son plated me the first couple of episodes.

Can't say I had much of an urge to continue with it.

 

[JD]

Never played the games, but I loved the show.

I can deal with a fantastical world if the characters have realistic reactions to what's going on around them and to them. When the main character goes through traumatic events and basically doesn't react... I bounce out. I want drama, not a live-action cartoon.

It's worth keeping in mind that she is not a normal person, she was raised by strange people in a strange place, so it makes perfect sense she wouldn't react to situations the way you'd expect an average 21st century to.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Never played the games, but I loved the show.

It's worth keeping in mind that she is not a normal person, she was raised by strange people in a strange place, so it makes perfect sense she wouldn't react to situations the way you'd expect an average 21st century to.

Yes. Lucy was all in on the mythology of the Vaults. As her journey continues that mythology is stripped away.

 

[Sketcher]

Lucy really does go through the five stages of Okey Dokey.

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[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Never played the games, but I loved the show.

It's worth keeping in mind that she is not a normal person, she was raised by strange people in a strange place, so it makes perfect sense she wouldn't react to situations the way you'd expect an average 21st century to.

Would they be that stranger? Just regular people living underground until it's time to surface.

 

[JD]

But you're mad she didn't react the way you thought she should, so you clearly expected her to be a normal person. To put it bluntly, the people in the Vaults are a bunch of weirdos who don't act like normal people because they've been totally controlled by the people running them for multiple generations at this point. I haven't watched it since it first came out, but I don't think we see a lot of normal emotions or behavior from Lucy or the other people Vault, at least in the first few episodes.
And Lucy's whole arc is moving away from being Vault Dweller to being someone who can survive on the surface.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

But you're mad she didn't react the way you thought she should, so you clearly expected her to be a normal person. To put it bluntly, the people in the Vaults are a bunch of weirdos who don't act like normal people because they've been totally controlled by the people running them for multiple generations at this point. I haven't watched it since it first came out, but I don't think we see a lot of normal emotions or behavior from Lucy or the other people Vault, at least in the first few episodes.
And Lucy's whole arc is moving away from being Vault Dweller to being someone who can survive on the surface.

#1 Mad is the wrong word. Disappointed. I've watched a lot of post-apocalyptic fiction, great films, great series. Fallout was just too cartoony for me to make it past the 2nd episode.

#2 Yes, I expect people to act like people.

#3 Why would the Vault people be weirdos? Did I miss something in the opening episode?

#4 The lack of "normal emotions" weirds me out and turns me away from the show.

#5 She has zero survival skills, there shouldn't be an arc, she shouldn't survive on the surface at all without a team of fellow Vault dwellers backing her. That she went out into the world all by herself was just dumb.

 

[JD]

#1 Mad is the wrong word. Disappointed. I've watched a lot of post-apocalyptic fiction, great films, great series. Fallout was just too cartoony for me to make it past the 2nd episode.

I don't see where it's really any "cartoonier" than the Mad Max movies, especially Fury Road, which you've already said you enjoy.

#2 Yes, I expect people to act like people.

But they're not normal people who are going act like normal people.

#3 Why would the Vault people be weirdos? Did I miss something in the opening episode?

You didn't think the Vault Dweller were weird? I thought something was off about them pretty much from the first scene.

#4 The lack of "normal emotions" weirds me out and turns me away from the show.

I take it your not a fan of Vulcans then.

#5 She has zero survival skills, there shouldn't be an arc, she shouldn't survive on the surface at all without a team of fellow Vault dwellers backing her. That she went out into the world all by herself was just dumb.

Yes, it was dumb of her, that was kind of the whole point. She was so naive and so determined to find her father that she went charging off without knowing what she was doing. And I don't remember having any problems with how she managed to survive once she left the Vault.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Lucy didn't exactly turn into Furiousa right after she stepped out of the Vault.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

I don't see where it's really any "cartoonier" than the Mad Max movies, especially Fury Road, which you've already said you enjoy.

But they're not normal people who are going act like normal people.

You didn't think the Vault Dweller were weird? I thought something was off about them pretty much from the first scene.

I take it your not a fan of Vulcans then.

Yes, it was dumb of her, that was kind of the whole point. She was so naive and so determined to find her father that she went charging off without knowing what she was doing. And I don't remember having any problems with how she managed to survive once she left the Vault.

#1 Google a cast image for Fallout, then Google a cast image for one of the Mel Gibson Mad Max movies. Fallout looks like a live action cartoon. Nothing about it looks like it could happen in the real world. Mad Max, the Mel Gibson movies anyway, felt somewhat grounded if civilization completely broke down.

#2 How are they not normal people? They're literally just normal everyday people living underground. Sheltered maybe, but still normal.

#3 I thought the Vault Dwellers were weird in a bad acting, bad directing sense.

#4 Vulcans behave what comes naturally to Vulcans given their denial of emotion and embracing logic. That's normal for them. Vault Dwellers aren't space aliens. They're people like you and me.

#5 Realistically, she should have died in the first or second episode.

 

[fireproof78]

#3 Why would the Vault people be weirdos? Did I miss something in the opening episode?

The entire structure of the Vault is that you step up and do your part for the Vault. That's where the "can do Okey-dokey" attitude comes from. They have a different attitude, one that is far different structure.

It's revealed that the Vaults are social experiments.

#2 How are they not normal people? They're literally just normal everyday people living underground. Sheltered maybe, but still normal.

They are not normal. That's the whole point of the show.

Nothing about it looks like it could happen in the real world.

Ok, well, it's not exactly the real world. It's an alternate history, and one where the Great War was feared coming for years, on the heals of a resource war. Civilization didn't break down; civilization was nuked. It was unknown who caused the first launch but China and the USA launched all out attacks, nuking major targets, and rendering much of the world desolate. Those who survived survived in underground vaults, or in other ways.

Treating it as realistic is setting yourself up for disappointment. The whole premise is one that you have to buy in to or the show will not work.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

The entire structure of the Vault is that you step up and do your part for the Vault. That's where the "can do Okey-dokey" attitude comes from. They have a different attitude, one that is far different structure.

It's revealed that the Vaults are social experiments.

They are not normal. That's the whole point of the show.

Ok, well, it's not exactly the real world. It's an alternate history, and one where the Great War was feared coming for years, on the heals of a resource war. Civilization didn't break down; civilization was nuked. It was unknown who caused the first launch but China and the USA launched all out attacks, nuking major targets, and rendering much of the world desolate. Those who survived survived in underground vaults, or in other ways.

Treating it as realistic is setting yourself up for disappointment. The whole premise is one that you have to buy in to or the show will not work.

Thank you for explaining. I guess I just wanted something dark, gritty, hyper realistic.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The folks in the Vault live in a bright technicolor world. The whole show is very stylized. I'm not sure "reality" is something the filmmakers were going for. A distorted hyperreality maybe.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

The folks in the Vault live in a bright technicolor world. The whole show is very stylized. I'm not sure "reality" is something the filmmakers were going for. A distorted hyperreality maybe.

I did like Legion (the Marvel show).

 

[fireproof78]

Thank you for explaining. I guess I just wanted something dark, gritty, hyper realistic.

Can I ask why you thought Fallout would be that way? It gets darker, and a little more gritty, but it's not hyper realistic by any stretch. It explores another world and history, and much different cultural attitude. The people from the Vaults were subjected to a different experience than those on the surface. Their responses will not make perfect sense to us. Again, humanity has survived many, many horrible things throughout its history. The "suck it up and deal" attitude has been around far longer than the discipline of psychotherapy has been.

 

[JD]

I'll never understand some people's obsession with things being as realistic as possible in shows like Fallout. I don't know about anybody else but the whole reason I watch stuff like it is to get away from reality.
Don't me wrong, there is some dark gritty stuff I love, like The Last of Us, but I would probably end up suicidal if every single movie and show I watched was like that.

 

[Admiral Jean-Luc Picard]

Can I ask why you thought Fallout would be that way? It gets darker, and a little more gritty, but it's not hyper realistic by any stretch. It explores another world and history, and much different cultural attitude. The people from the Vaults were subjected to a different experience than those on the surface. Their responses will not make perfect sense to us. Again, humanity has survived many, many horrible things throughout its history. The "suck it up and deal" attitude has been around far longer than the discipline of psychotherapy has been.

All I knew going in was that it was a post-apocalyptic show, so that was my expectation. Take a look at this image. The main character is brightly colorful, a walking target, a small woman with future gun, surely nothing can happen to her - main character shields up! Red alert! WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP! Zombie cowboy, no, just no. Why is War Machine in this? Why the dog? Everything about this poster is horrible. I am not saying the show is objectively a bad production, it's a very good one. I am just giving a very personal opinion.