Fallout: The Television Series
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It all circles back to the fact that very little television is realistic. Crime shows have investigations taking significantly quicker than they would in reality, court cases can last months if not years in reality, but in legal dramas are done in less than a week in universe. Real hospitals are nothing like Grey's Anatomy, House or ER.
Take into account we have no real idea what an actual post apocalyptic world would look like, there really are no grounds to say what is or isn't realistic in this scenario. And since television rarely gives us realism anyway, so what?
Take into account we have no real idea what an actual post apocalyptic world would look like, there really are no grounds to say what is or isn't realistic in this scenario. And since television rarely gives us realism anyway, so what?
There is no one way to do it. The choices on how do it are usually for artistic reasons. Usually asthenic choices to convey feeling and meaning about the characters and themes.I don't need everything hyper realistic. I just want that in post-apocalyptic fiction.
I am aware. I am expressing why I don't like the show, not dictating what filmmakers should do.
But why just this genre, what's so special about it that you can't accept a show that adds some humor and craziness to it?I don't need everything hyper realistic. I just want that in post-apocalyptic fiction.
Welcome to why I don't trust posters or marketing. I go in and review it myself if there is any interest.All I knew going in was that it was a post-apocalyptic show, so that was my expectation. Take a look at this image. The main character is brightly colorful, a walking target, a small woman with future gun, surely nothing can happen to her - main character shields up! Red alert! WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP! Zombie cowboy, no, just no. Why is War Machine in this? Why the dog? Everything about this poster is horrible. I am not saying the show is objectively a bad production, it's a very good one. I am just giving a very personal opinion.
But, I'm not one for hyper realistic either.
Funny thing is, the Max Max outfit is the first costume change you get in the original game. The blue vault suit is supposed to seem ridiculous out in the wasteland as it offers little protection and makes it obvious you're some sheltered fool with a bag of supplies to steal. Looks iconic though.
The dog is also in the games, though it's a different dog each time really. He's inspired by the dog in Mad Max.
The dog is also in the games, though it's a different dog each time really. He's inspired by the dog in Mad Max.
You're absolutely right, but the world built up around that is realistic, thus the audience can suspend disbelief and "buy" the guzzling crazy cars. Rube Goldberg?
You must really hate the Montana scenes in First Contact, just ten years after WWIII, 600 million dead but you wouldn't know it from bright and sunny Bozeman where two people can build a warp drive from scraps and an old ICBM...
I think the other point to make re the technology/mech suits etc, is that my understanding is that WWIII in Fallout happens in 2077, not only is it an alternate history but it's an alt history set in the future, and then you have over 200 years passing before Lucy exits the vault. Meanwhile the Mad Max universe is set...well no one really knows how soon after the collapse it's set, especially given it's apocryphal campfire nature but it's not more than a few decades, and of course Mad Max isn't even post apocalyptic really
I think the other point to make re the technology/mech suits etc, is that my understanding is that WWIII in Fallout happens in 2077, not only is it an alternate history but it's an alt history set in the future, and then you have over 200 years passing before Lucy exits the vault. Meanwhile the Mad Max universe is set...well no one really knows how soon after the collapse it's set, especially given it's apocryphal campfire nature but it's not more than a few decades, and of course Mad Max isn't even post apocalyptic really
You're joking, right? Can you not tell the difference between something looking semi-realistic and something looking like a hard parody?
This is why I detest alternate history. I always took Mad Max to be "the near future," we don't know if it's a global apocalypse, apocalyptic only for some nations, or just Australia. We do know, it's bad. How is Mad Max not post apocalyptic? Have you seen the movies?
Yes I have seen the films, and every single one of them is post apocalyptic...EXCEPT the first one.
Mad Max 79 is clearly before the apocalypse that destroyed the world (or at least Australia) Yes civilisation is crumbling, yes resources are scarce and society is on the brink of collapse, but importantly it hasn't collapsed yet. There are hospitals, and police and some semblance of government. Everything's falling apart but the Apocalypse hasn't happened yet. Pre-apocalyptic would be the best term for it.
Re First Contact it seems like you have a very clear line in the sand as to how unrealistic something has to be before you write it off which is a trifle strange but to each their own, I wouldn't call Fallout a hard parody.
Mad Max 79 is clearly before the apocalypse that destroyed the world (or at least Australia) Yes civilisation is crumbling, yes resources are scarce and society is on the brink of collapse, but importantly it hasn't collapsed yet. There are hospitals, and police and some semblance of government. Everything's falling apart but the Apocalypse hasn't happened yet. Pre-apocalyptic would be the best term for it.
Re First Contact it seems like you have a very clear line in the sand as to how unrealistic something has to be before you write it off which is a trifle strange but to each their own, I wouldn't call Fallout a hard parody.
Ah, so the apocalypse (for Australia anyway) went down between the 1st and 2nd films? Thinking back, that tracks.
The Vaults, the Vault Dwellers, the brightly colored uniforms, the Iron Men knock offs, fast-attacking monsters, vampires or zombies or whatever red man is, the technology, it all feels like I'm watching Spaceballs.
And it doesn't get explicitly post-nuclear until the third one, for whatever that's worth.
@Admiral Jean-Luc Picard it's perfectly fine that you didn't enjoy it. I think you can stop whacking the deceased equine. 
Hardly
Spaceballs is deliberate parody. The only thing Fallout parodies is the 50s era Americana and Red Scare.
There is a difference between comedy and parody. Fallout has a distinct humor to it that is not meant as parody save for the extreme corruption of Pre War America and the corporate interests driving government and technology.
But, one has to be willing to engage with art as intended, not what we expect.
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