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Fallout: The Television Series

Season Finale:
Despite the the final episode implying Vault-Tec started the war, I don't think that was actually the case. Pretty sure Cooper's daughter would not have been with him, her mother would have already had her in a vault if they knew the bombs were coming.

Unless one side started firing earlier than Vault-Tec expected.

The games themselves left who started the war as ambiguous, and there are several theories, in and out of universe, of who did it, including even aliens thanks to one of the FO3 DLCs.
 
If there isn't a second season, showrunner Graham Wagner was prepared. In a recent article, he was quoted as saying,

. ‘It’s an uncertain time in television. So the art form of season finales has become: provide enough closure, but leave the door open for more, But we feel we’ve barely scratched the surface of the Fallout universe. We literally have documents and documents of stuff that we’re, in success, eager to dig into. Our fingers are crossed that we’re going to get the opportunity to do all that stuff.’

Fallout TV show writer explains how Todd Howard and Batman helped shape an original story | GamesRadar+
 
You know, at least people in the 50s were more honest in their misogyny and racism.

The funny thing is that it actually is absolutely a woke series by traditional definitions. Fallout is a very politically charged series about how the United States degenerated into resource hungry fascism and corporate autocracy before nuking the world because the leadership (The Enclave) believed they could weather the....fallout. The good ending of F2 is even how the term President becomes synonymous with evil.

When it did Washington DC as a post apocalypse hellhole, Bethesda never pretended it wasn't political like, say, the Division 2 and Ubisoft.
 
The US degenerating into a resource hungry fascist state with corporate autocracy doesn't seem that far off. The US going to war with China seems less certain, but not outside the realm of possibility.
 
They are getting a Season 2. It hasn't been officially announced, but someone found documentation that says they'll be getting Tax credits for filming in California in Season 2.
I'm not sure, what I read made it sound like they were just offered tax credits if the show continues and they move it to California. It's always weird to me when a show set in California isn't filmed there.

I just finished watching the first episode and I really enjoyed this. I came into as a fan of Johnathan Nolan and Lisa Joy's work, with no experience with the games, so this was all totally new to me.
The set up of the world with the Vaults and Brotherhood of Steel was pretty interesting, definitely looking forward to seeing more of both.
I liked the characters quite a bit so far, and the story has already taken some interesting twists and turns. Definitely looking forward to watching more.
 
Finished it.

Okay, the last half of the season was much stronger than the first, and the story came together nicely. I did have a geek moment the first time the classic line was uttered:

WAR NEVER CHANGES

Also, the very last shot....

Was that New Vegas?

Anyway, this show hasn't excited me nearly to the levels of Shogun or For All Mankind, but I'm definitely on board for more. And Walton Goggins is the f'n bomb. (Pun intended)
 
Finished it.

Okay, the last half of the season was much stronger than the first, and the story came together nicely. I did have a geek moment the first time the classic line was uttered:

WAR NEVER CHANGES

Also, the very last shot....

Was that New Vegas?

Anyway, this show hasn't excited me nearly to the levels of Shogun or For All Mankind, but I'm definitely on board for more. And Walton Goggins is the f'n bomb. (Pun intended)
Yes, it was, and really cool because we see both Robert House as well as the leader of Big Mountain (Big MT), at the board meeting.
 
Amazing everything you said is wrong, so very fucking wrong.
Don't watch just one episode of a show. That's a dumbass move.

Episode 1 is the setup, and the rest of the season unravels the mystery.

Absolutely nothing of what I said is wrong, its my opinion (some people seem to have trouble with that concept). If you like it, fine, I don't care if you do and you don't need to pay attention to my opinion. I thought that it was badly written trash, written by people who don't even remotely care about the property and who, even besides that, are absolutely worthless as writers. The mysteries in the writing are stupid and uninteresting but not the point, nothing in the show makes sense at a basic level, at least with the Vault stuff, and the show gets almost everything about the Brotherhood of Steel completely wrong.

Like I said the show is just the Fallout version of The Witcher TV Show, where a few good departments on the technical side of things (costumes, sets, and props specifically) somehow got mixed up with actively terrible people in the showrunning/producing/writing departments.

Add all this to the show actively trying to retcon Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas (probably because Bethesda famously hates that people negatively compare their Fallout games to those three, I doubt the actual writers would have known to do that on their own) and you get what I consider one of the worst video game adaptations I've ever seen, even at only one episode (and a quick reading of the other episodes synopsis on wikipedia just for the hell of it, and that definitely made me happy that I skipped the rest of the episodes). I think the show is probably more enjoyable the less you know about the Fallout franchise, and the more you can stand generic edgy streaming stuff, which means I'm the exact opposite of the demographic that the show was made for.
 
No it isn't.


Nope, that's not true at all. There's too many references to all the games for that to be the case.

The retconning has been confirmed, although I'd have to explain half the plot of Fallout New Vegas and the general Fallout timeline to explain it in more detail, and I don't care to. The information is out there for anyone who cares. I guess that the stuff with Fallout 1 and 2 is more ambiguous, but I've heard that a few things do completely contradict them as well, although maybe not as openly as New Vegas gets screwed over.
 
The retconning has been confirmed,
No it hasn't.

While I haven't personally beaten Fallout 1 and 2, I have watched/read a few LPs of it.
I've beaten Fallout 3 once, Fallout New Vegas a dozen times (and watched several playthroughs) and Fallout 4 a few times.

I know Fallout
 
No it hasn't.

While I haven't personally beaten Fallout 1 and 2, I have watched/read a few LPs of it.
I've beaten Fallout 3 once, Fallout New Vegas a dozen times (and watched several playthroughs) and Fallout 4 a few times.

Yes, it has. You constantly posting "No, it hasn't" when you disagree with something doesn't make it so.

But, fuck it, I'll spoil a 14 year old video game.

Some things the show says/does that conflict with the games :

1. Fallout the show says that the New California Republic is bombed years before New Vegas takes place, which literally makes the events of New Vegas unworkable. The main plot(s) of New vegas needs the NCR and in the game they're a powerful, far flung organization.

2. The New California Republic in Fallout New Vegas (and the games in general) is a multi state spanning organization. One nuke couldn't take it out, and in New Vegas its heavily implied that Shady Sands isn't even the capital of the NCR anymore, the core of the NCR is The Hub. Even if one city is taken out, the NCR outposts in Oregon, nevada and even the rest of California would be fine, they'd have to nuke dozens of cities over multiple states to actually eliminate the NCR to the level the show does.

There is a lot more I've read from more detail focused people online, these were just the two main very obvious things.
 
One, I liked it, bit slow at first, but enjoyed it. Only played 76 so not to deep in the Lore, but did play 76 for YEARS.. so noticed all the call outs and stuff. Quite nice. Hope for a S2.

The US degenerating into a resource hungry fascist state with corporate autocracy doesn't seem that far off. The US going to war with China seems less certain, but not outside the realm of possibility.
Anybody can buy OCP Stock!!

Yes, it has. You constantly posting "No, it hasn't" when you disagree with something doesn't make it so.

But, fuck it, I'll spoil a 14 year old video game.

Some things the show says/does that conflict with the games :

1. Fallout the show says that the New California Republic is bombed years before New Vegas takes place, which literally makes the events of New Vegas unworkable. The main plot(s) of New vegas needs the NCR and in the game they're a powerful, far flung organization.

2. The New California Republic in Fallout New Vegas (and the games in general) is a multi state spanning organization. One nuke couldn't take it out, and in New Vegas its heavily implied that Shady Sands isn't even the capital of the NCR anymore, the core of the NCR is The Hub. Even if one city is taken out, the NCR outposts in Oregon, nevada and even the rest of California would be fine, they'd have to nuke dozens of cities over multiple states to actually eliminate the NCR to the level the show does.

There is a lot more I've read from more detail focused people online, these were just the two main very obvious things.

Maybe.. by chance, if a S2 pops up that they address that?
 
Yes, it has. You constantly posting "No, it hasn't" when you disagree with something doesn't make it so.

But, fuck it, I'll spoil a 14 year old video game.

Some things the show says/does that conflict with the games :

1. Fallout the show says that the New California Republic is bombed years before New Vegas takes place, which literally makes the events of New Vegas unworkable. The main plot(s) of New vegas needs the NCR and in the game they're a powerful, far flung organization.

2. The New California Republic in Fallout New Vegas (and the games in general) is a multi state spanning organization. One nuke couldn't take it out, and in New Vegas its heavily implied that Shady Sands isn't even the capital of the NCR anymore, the core of the NCR is The Hub. Even if one city is taken out, the NCR outposts in Oregon, nevada and even the rest of California would be fine, they'd have to nuke dozens of cities over multiple states to actually eliminate the NCR to the level the show does.

There is a lot more I've read from more detail focused people online, these were just the two main very obvious things.
Fallout: New Vegas – 2281
Fallout 4 – 2287
Fallout TV show – 2296
The retconning has been confirmed, although I'd have to explain half the plot of Fallout New Vegas and the general Fallout timeline to explain it in more detail, and I don't care to. The information is out there for anyone who cares. I guess that the stuff with Fallout 1 and 2 is more ambiguous, but I've heard that a few things do completely contradict them as well, although maybe not as openly as New Vegas gets screwed over.
This is not accurate at all.
only one city is shkwn nuked, not the whole Republic. Moreover, the Republic was corrupted by New Vegas, similar to Pre-War, as House notes, and stretched too thin to hold the Mojave.
 
Absolutely nothing of what I said is wrong, its my opinion (some people seem to have trouble with that concept). If you like it, fine, I don't care if you do and you don't need to pay attention to my opinion. I thought that it was badly written trash, written by people who don't even remotely care about the property and who, even besides that, are absolutely worthless as writers. The mysteries in the writing are stupid and uninteresting but not the point, nothing in the show makes sense at a basic level, at least with the Vault stuff, and the show gets almost everything about the Brotherhood of Steel completely wrong.

Like I said the show is just the Fallout version of The Witcher TV Show, where a few good departments on the technical side of things (costumes, sets, and props specifically) somehow got mixed up with actively terrible people in the showrunning/producing/writing departments.

Add all this to the show actively trying to retcon Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas (probably because Bethesda famously hates that people negatively compare their Fallout games to those three, I doubt the actual writers would have known to do that on their own) and you get what I consider one of the worst video game adaptations I've ever seen, even at only one episode (and a quick reading of the other episodes synopsis on wikipedia just for the hell of it, and that definitely made me happy that I skipped the rest of the episodes). I think the show is probably more enjoyable the less you know about the Fallout franchise, and the more you can stand generic edgy streaming stuff, which means I'm the exact opposite of the demographic that the show was made for.
You're wrong. Thanks for playing.
 
To clarify, Fallout: New Vegas hasn't been retconed. They may have just screwed up the date in the show.

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