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Fake presidential assassinations.

Sci, read the link you cite completely before dismissing my point.

Acting officers

Acting officers may be eligible. In 2009, the Continuity of Government Commission, a private non-partisan think tank, reported,
The language in the current Presidential Succession Act is less clear than that of the 1886 Act with respect to Senate confirmation. The 1886 Act refers to "such officers as shall have been appointed by the advice and consent of the Senate to the office therein named..." The current act merely refers to "officers appointed, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate." Read literally, this means that the current act allows for acting secretaries to be in the line of succession as long as they are confirmed by the Senate for a post (even for example, the second or third in command within a department). It is not uncommon for a second in command to become acting secretary when the secretary leaves office. Though there is some dispute over this provision, the language clearly permits acting secretaries to be placed in the line of succession. (We have spoken to acting secretaries who told us they had been placed in the line of succession.)
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Alidar Jarok said:
Sci, read the link you cite completely before dismissing my point.

Acting officers

Acting officers may be eligible. In 2009, the Continuity of Government Commission, a private non-partisan think tank, reported,
The language in the current Presidential Succession Act is less clear than that of the 1886 Act with respect to Senate confirmation. The 1886 Act refers to "such officers as shall have been appointed by the advice and consent of the Senate to the office therein named..." The current act merely refers to "officers appointed, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate." Read literally, this means that the current act allows for acting secretaries to be in the line of succession as long as they are confirmed by the Senate for a post (even for example, the second or third in command within a department). It is not uncommon for a second in command to become acting secretary when the secretary leaves office. Though there is some dispute over this provision, the language clearly permits acting secretaries to be placed in the line of succession. (We have spoken to acting secretaries who told us they had been placed in the line of succession.)
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The language does not "clearly" allow for such a thing at all. At best, that is the sort of issue that would have to be resolved by the judiciary.
 
Yeah, I meant David Palmer, my bad. And, yeah, I don't recall what happened to W. Palmer or Keeler following their assassination attempts on their respective "days." (Considering the seasons were a year or more apart from one another, it was sort of hard for the show to touch-up these little details.)
 
Another non-assassination death in the 1972 TV movie "the Man" saw James Earl Jones step into the Oval Office.
 
In "Commander in Chief" - the Geena Davis series that was out a few years ago what was the death of her POTUS that advanced her to President?
 
Sci said:
Alidar Jarok said:
Sci, read the link you cite completely before dismissing my point.

Acting officers

Acting officers may be eligible. In 2009, the Continuity of Government Commission, a private non-partisan think tank, reported,
The language in the current Presidential Succession Act is less clear than that of the 1886 Act with respect to Senate confirmation. The 1886 Act refers to "such officers as shall have been appointed by the advice and consent of the Senate to the office therein named..." The current act merely refers to "officers appointed, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate." Read literally, this means that the current act allows for acting secretaries to be in the line of succession as long as they are confirmed by the Senate for a post (even for example, the second or third in command within a department). It is not uncommon for a second in command to become acting secretary when the secretary leaves office. Though there is some dispute over this provision, the language clearly permits acting secretaries to be placed in the line of succession. (We have spoken to acting secretaries who told us they had been placed in the line of succession.)
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The language does not "clearly" allow for such a thing at all. At best, that is the sort of issue that would have to be resolved by the judiciary.
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That's why I said "arguably" not "clearly". Did you read my post either?
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Clancyverse, where Ryan was left behind at the White House during the State of the Union address and the President and everybody else was killed in a terrorist attack, advancing Ryan to the Presidency.

Good reason for leaving someone in the white house.
 
IIRC, Homer Simpson accidentally assassinated both President Clinton and Former Senator Bob Dole, by flushing them out into space in "Treehouse of Horrors VII."
 
BrotherBenny said:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Clancyverse, where Ryan was left behind at the White House during the State of the Union address and the President and everybody else was killed in a terrorist attack, advancing Ryan to the Presidency.
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Ah, but the opening post specifically referred to television and movies. ;) Ryan was never National Security Adviser or Vice President in the film adaptations of Clancy novels.
 
Alidar Jarok said:
I haven't, what's it about? :)
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Crap, where do I start?

It takes place in 2025, when an underground organization called Daybreak sews a nanotechnovirus that shuts down not only the U.S. power grid but also anything that uses computer chips (which by 2025 is just about everything); additional nanites also turn plastic into green goo, and essentially the U.S. returns to "Little House On The Prarie" days.

The portions of "Directive 51" that pertain to our discussion regarding Presidential succession involve the death of the Vice President in a Daybreak-related terrorist attack and the emotional collapse of the President and his relinquishing of the Presidency to the Speaker of the House, the Speaker then goes berserk in his zeal to apprehend the Daybreakers, and the unveiling of Presidential Directive 51 (which appears to have established a continuity-of-government organization)(I haven't checked Google to see if there really IS a PD51 or if it's just a fictional creation) where someone not in the line of succession is selected to enforce that succession, but when the successors are incompetent and/or insane, how does he decide whom to appoint as President?

I'm not normally into political technothrillers, but I found this book fascinating. I'm sure someone else could capsule it much better than I, but in regards to our discussion of the line of Presidential succession, this book details the nightmare that it COULD be.
 
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