It is not. Speak for yourself. Star Trek meets Andor meets The West Wing sounds exciting to me. Instead of the pew pew shows about the end of the whole universe every season we've had from Kurtzman. THEY were boring.
News Exclusive: Scott Bakula Eyeing Star Trek Return In President Archer Series Pitch From ‘Enterprise’ Producer
Every hypothetical Star Trek show that is discussed is a dangling carrot for someone. You could simply not engage with this thread if it has run its course for you.
I did.
Your argument might be stronger if it didn't rely so much on tearing down a bunch of very different shows down and also if you didn't try to imply United is supposed to be anything like Andor because "meets Andor" is not part of the pitch afaik.
Unless I missed something the only time Sussman mentioned Andor he said he wants United to do for Star Trek what Andor did for Star Wars in the way that it tells adult stories. He never said it would be like Andor in terms of content.
This is a discussion board, contrary opinions are fine and expected. It's also fine to point out that this is a thread about nothing, Star Trek United is basically fan fiction at this point.
Wishing a discussion no longer exists on a duscussion board makes having a discussion about it a little difficult
I guess you did miss something.
Exclusive: Scott Bakula-Led ‘Star Trek: United’ Pitch Explores Archer’s Family, Romulan War Aftermath
'Enterprise' writer/producer Mike Sussman gives us more details on the proposed series.
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Google Star Trek - United and Andor. Andor is mentioned in almost every article from late 2025 about Sussman's pitch for Star Trek - United.
I think you're missing the point.
You're speaking from your own personal likes, which seem to indicate that because YOU like it, it must happen. Unless I missed some said by @Takeru , they never said they're not interested in it, OR that it doesn't sound interesting. They simply said that the changes of this show actually being made are zero to none. They're weren't speaking personal likes, but facts and numbers.
No, you are missing the point. He did claim the whole concept was boring, like he was speaking some kind of universal truth, whereas there are many people, including me, who have been clamoring for a series like this for many years.
I think an Archer/Federation series would bomb harder than Starfleet Academy and Section 31 combined. No one likes to remember that Enterprise finished its run with less than two million viewers per week.
Like I said, I may missed that post. If you could quote it/direct me to it so I can read those exact words that would be helpful.
I did read the post you quoted, and the words 'this concept is boring' weren't in there.
And honestly, many fans clamoring for a President Archer show for years is new to me, but I don't follow all message boards.
And holy shit! I just noticed you're from the Netherlands like AND judging from your username we have the same birthyear!
Where abouts are you from? I live in Winschoten, near Groningen.
Could be, I have no idea and neither have you to be honest.
I said "It is" in response to Mudd saying the concept sounds boring.
I didn't explicitly say "in my opinion" but many people don't, that's usually a given when someone's posting an opinion.
But yeah, my main point was that talking about this is pretty much pointless because the show is obviously not in development and there's zero evidence that anyone in charge is even considering it. It's been almost a year since this was first reported and since then nothing has happened, there isn't even any rumbling within the industry.
And the Andor thing was obviously just thrown in to get attention, there's no way this would be anything like Andor. Even if the Archer show was a political/spy thriller Archer and Andor are fundamentally different characters and the settings couldn't be more opposite.
Why stop at Archer? Presenting Star Trek: Presidents - an anthology series chronicling the trials and tribble-ations of some of the UFP's most well-known / briefly seen on-screen CICs. Do a deep dive into the terms served by Baldy Beard-face from STIV, Squid-face from DS9 S4, and Red-Foreman-suspiciously-Klingon-face from STVI.
Let's get the ball rolling with a YouTube upload. I have sources, you know.
Let's get the ball rolling with a YouTube upload. I have sources, you know.
bwahaa
Since Paramount is also uninterested, I guess they have no idea either…
If it has the writing of those shows/movies, I'd expect it to bomb too.
Mike Sussman is from the classic era of Trek writing. I think that will be appreciated by many viewers.
And its critics don't like to remember that the show was moved from Wednesdays to Fridays, a night with less viewers at home.
Well, the Roddenberry box kinda molds Star Trek shows to tell their story a certain way, so I would not expect a complete rip from Andor.
Except Archer would be in the Mothma role, and his children would be in the Andor role.
And, you are right. The settings aren't the same. Andor deals with systems failure. An Archer show would be about building a resilient system.
Will? You mean would, right? There's currently no evidence that this project is going anywhere.
Because the show had already lost a huge chunk of its viewers. I like the show, was just watching it last night, not interested in rewriting history to make its ratings seem like they were better than they were or making excuses for it.
It was rejected by all but the hardest of the hardcore.
Yeah, Enterprise already had less than two million viewers per episode when it was on Wednesday. The move to Friday's in its final season didn't cause damage to the shows viewership that hadn't already been done.
Was it that low? I couldn't remember, so I looked things up via Wikipedia. There's archival data on the full run; the third-season finale was 3.9 million. It had a 1.7 Nielsen rating, though—maybe that's the sub-two you were thinking about?
The show predictably suffered further on Friday nights for season four; it shuffled around between 2.5 million at its nadir, and an upper limit of 3.8 million for its "two-hour finale night," which was really just... "Terra Prime" followed by you-know-what.
It's all neither here nor there at this point, of course. The reality is that, back then, 3.9 million wasn't strong enough to easily support an expensive series, even as it faced budget cuts. Toss in the new regime that was on its way in, and by the time the producers got the cancelation call, there weren't exactly any shocked faces in the room over there.
I'm admittedly going off twenty year memories here, but still, even if Enterprise had stayed on Wednesdays for its fourth season, it still would have been the show's last.
