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I think Dukhat was saying that he doesn’t believe a fourth Kelvin film will be made at all.
Demons/Terra Prime was their sendoff, and quite a satisfactory one at that.
There is no longer any point in making another film set in that universe, in my opinion. The whole idea behind those movies was to tell stories that wouldn’t conflict with established continuity. Well, that ship has sailed.
Not to mention that we now have three versions of the TOS characters: TOS itself, the Kelvin Timeline, and SNW. Making another movie with the KT cast would be needlessly convoluted. They could possibly reboot yet again for a third time, but will a casual moviegoing audience still care about the next new Kirk, Spock and whatever design they come up with for the next 1701? Yeah, I get that we’re now on our 4th theatrical Superman and the film’s doing great, but Star Trek isn’t Superman.
Making a new Star Trek film is hard. I don’t envy Skydance.
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After TMP went so far over budget, the other TOS movies were made on much more modest budgets with modest expectations. The Kelvin movies had blockbuster budgets and blockbuster expectations.
If the viewing audience can tell the difference between all the movies and tv versions of Superman, three different Kirks are not going to confuse anyone.
SNW can wrap in 2027, the Kelvin movie theoretically could premiere at the start of blockbuster season in 2028, and then Year One premieres sometime in 2029 or 2030. I do not see what's confusing about that either.
The only Kelvinverse movie that’s likely to be binned is the Origins movie, as that one is based around an original cast and can be picked back up at any time years from now. And I don’t think anyone wants to retread ground Enterprise already did anyways regarding first contacts. Frankly, IDK why they did not pitch a Romulan War movie based around the experiences of Balthazar Edison instead. It would have shown how well Idris Elba acts without the Krall makeup. And it would have been an actual prequel to the Kelvin movies.
The biggest problem with getting the Kelvin films into production has been studio politics of the previous regime and money.
Both seem to have been resolved.
I agree. With there now being five shows and a straight-to-streaming movie set back in the Prime Universe, continuing with the Kelvin Universe almost seems like a wasteful endeavor. They made it clear that it didn't "replace" the Prime Universe in any way. In a strange way, it feels more like the Kelvin Universe exists in canon simply as the conclusion to Spock's life, rather than being a living thing on its own.
Spock’s katra still exists though.
What if the Kelvinverse crew try to return his katra to his timeline?
Well that's an elevator pitch for a new film if I ever heard one! 
Where people confused by 3 Spider-Man characters in one movie?
According to studio executive "experts", we couldn't have any functional Connies in TNG (refit or otherwise) because it would profoundly confuse the poor addled wiffle-ball brains of the viewing audience.
For the same dubious (dare I say specious) reason, we would never see the Enterprise-E (or any other Sovereign-class ships) in any episodes of DS9, even if it meant potentially turning the tide in the Dominion War, or at least some critical battles. They were all off busy recruiting allies for the war, a-la the opening scene in Insurrection - "Can anyone remember when we were explorers?" They couldn't even show one greeting Voyager when she finally made it home, FFS!
The most powerful ships in the fleet were simply relegated to diplomatic courier status during the greatest existential threat the Alpha and Beta quadrants had experienced since the Borg's arrival.
I suppose we should be thankful we actually saw the Defiant doing what it was originally designed to do in First Contact, even though they were given explicit instructions not to destroy it. Ironically, they did that very thing in the show not long after - enter the Sao Paulo.
So, yes, some folks would most definitely believe people would be confused about such things.
For the same dubious (dare I say specious) reason, we would never see the Enterprise-E (or any other Sovereign-class ships) in any episodes of DS9, even if it meant potentially turning the tide in the Dominion War, or at least some critical battles. They were all off busy recruiting allies for the war, a-la the opening scene in Insurrection - "Can anyone remember when we were explorers?" They couldn't even show one greeting Voyager when she finally made it home, FFS!
The most powerful ships in the fleet were simply relegated to diplomatic courier status during the greatest existential threat the Alpha and Beta quadrants had experienced since the Borg's arrival.
I suppose we should be thankful we actually saw the Defiant doing what it was originally designed to do in First Contact, even though they were given explicit instructions not to destroy it. Ironically, they did that very thing in the show not long after - enter the Sao Paulo.
So, yes, some folks would most definitely believe people would be confused about such things.
You are forgetting that Paramount doesn't want their Trek viewing audience to be confused in any way.
Here's what I find confusing: That anyone is interested in revisiting the KT after almost ten years of the casual moviegoing audience completely forgetting about it. And that Goldsman thinks his Year One pipe dream will be an actual thing when a show that is basically 100% the same thing is about to be cancelled.
Because the casual moviegoing audience doesn't give a shit about the Romulan War. And the small percentage of fans who do will be extremely disappointed that whatever they show will not be remotely like what they had envisioned in their heads for the last 50 years.
The biggest problem with getting the Kelvin films into production has been studio politics of the previous regime and money.
Both seem to have been resolved.
I will believe that when I actually see preproduction work on a new film.
Yes, the producers of Berman Trek never wanted to show a Sovereign or an Intrepid in DS9 because they were worried that their dipshit audience would think they were the Ent-E and the Voyager, unless it was specifically mentioned in the story that they were different ships (i.e. the Bellerophon.) We almost got a refit Connie for the Stargazer in "The Battle," but that was because the producers were too cheap to have a new model built.
People like what they like.
KT is my most rewatched Trek after TOS. My interest is there.
You do not represent the casual moviegoing audience. You represent the .01% of obsessive-compulsive Star Trek fans that post regularly on a Star Trek internet bulletin board.
Uhhmmm... What're you trying to say man? 
You also stated "that anyone is interested..." so I felt like stating there is someone interested, small though it might be.You do not represent the casual moviegoing audience. You represent the .01% of obsessive-compulsive Star Trek fans that post regularly on a Star Trek internet bulletin board.
Isn't that kind of dealt with on roddenberry.x.io?
I don't know, I think a fourth KT film is as good as any other Trek movie pitch.
At least you've got a cast of recognisable stars even if no one particularly remembers the first film all these years on.
I totally understand why they wanted to get Hemsworth to anchor it, but that ship has sailed.
At least you've got a cast of recognisable stars even if no one particularly remembers the first film all these years on.
I totally understand why they wanted to get Hemsworth to anchor it, but that ship has sailed.
New management aka Skydance.
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