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[Tuskin38]

Isn't that kind of dealt with on roddenberry.x.io?

That isn't canon.

IIRC it was said in an interview that it's just a licenced product like the novels/comics.

 

[The Wormhole]

According to studio executive "experts", we couldn't have any functional Connies in TNG (refit or otherwise) because it would profoundly confuse the poor addled wiffle-ball brains of the viewing audience.

A decision that was made very late in the day. The original plan with The Battle was that the Stargazer was meant to be a Constitution class, in fact, that's what the actors even said when the episode was filmed. But then this ruling was made forbidding them from using the Connie, so they decided, "hey how about we use that ship Picard has a model of in his ready room?" Which they named Constellation since that was easy enough to dub over in post to match the actors saying Constitution.

Amusingly enough, when they first decided to make the Stargazer a Connie, they swapped out the model in the ready room and replaced it with a Connie model, creating the rather ironic situation where The Battle is the one episode where Picard does not have the Stargazer model in his ready room.

For the same dubious (dare I say specious) reason, we would never see the Enterprise-E (or any other Sovereign-class ships) in any episodes of DS9, even if it meant potentially turning the tide in the Dominion War, or at least some critical battles.

Behr really wanted a Sovereign class ship to be featured in the WYLB battle thinking it would sell to the audience how much of a Big Deal that battle was. But Paramount refused because they wanted the Sovereign class to be a movie exclusive ship with the belief that if they showed one on a TV show, people wouldn't bother to see the TNG movies in theatres. Though as it turned out, no one went to the theatres to see two of the three movies featuring the Sovereign class anyway.

I suppose we should be thankful we actually saw the Defiant doing what it was originally designed to do in First Contact, even though they were given explicit instructions not to destroy it. Ironically, they did that very thing in the show not long after - enter the Sao Paulo.

IIRC, that had more to do with Behr not wanting the Defiant to be destroyed in a production he had no involvement with. Which is why he was okay with it being destroyed later on on DS9 itself.

 

[Tuskin38]

Picard does not have the Stargazer model in his ready room.

The model in his ready room is not the Stargazer. Wrong registry number.

 

[The Wormhole]

Whatever, we all know what I meant.

 

[Dukhat]

New management aka Skydance.

And what would be their motivation?

A decision that was made very late in the day. The original plan with The Battle was that the Stargazer was meant to be a Constitution class, in fact, that's what the actors even said when the episode was filmed. But then this ruling was made forbidding them from using the Connie, so they decided, "hey how about we use that ship Picard has a model of in his ready room?" Which they named Constellation since that was easy enough to dub over in post to match the actors saying Constitution.

That’s not quite correct. To my knowledge, there was no ruling stating that the TMP refit couldn’t be used. At the time, the model was on loan to Bran Ferren & Associates for use in TFF, and the model was damaged and repainted between that film and TUC, rendering it unusable for TNG. But the plan for ‘The Battle’ was very much that the model would be used. Literally the only reason why it wasn’t was because Greg Jein built a new model on time and under budget based on that ready room model, which as you state was never meant to represent the Stargazer.

Behr really wanted a Sovereign class ship to be featured in the WYLB battle thinking it would sell to the audience how much of a Big Deal that battle was. But Paramount refused because they wanted the Sovereign class to be a movie exclusive ship with the belief that if they showed one on a TV show, people wouldn't bother to see the TNG movies in theatres. Though as it turned out, no one went to the theatres to see two of the three movies featuring the Sovereign class anyway.

Actually, Paramount just wanted to reuse stock footage from a previous episode for the WYLB battle, which is why we didn’t see a Sovereign. But yes, they believed that the audience would think a random Sovereign in the background was in fact the Enterprise-E, and they didn’t want to confuse them. I have no idea why they thought this.

The model in his ready room is not the Stargazer. Wrong registry number.

As mentioned above, the ready room model was just a random kitbash set dressing and was not supposed to represent any particular ship. Until it did.