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Why would they prematurely cancel the two shows they were currently producing and then announce some new show?

They've already made an official announcement. Skydance wants to focus on movies, with perhaps a reboot of the franchise. Whether this actually comes to pass, who knows. But that's their current stance.
I guess we will see
 
Yeah, unless someone here has inside info, im going to keep my hopes up :)
 
Why would they prematurely cancel the two shows they were currently producing and then announce some new show?

They've already made an official announcement. Skydance wants to focus on movies, with perhaps a reboot of the franchise. Whether this actually comes to pass, who knows. But that's their current stance.
I would say the new Skydance Trek movie has at least as much chance of happening as every theatrical movie Paramount announced since 2017.
 
Show A (Starfleet Academy) wasn't bringing in the ratings.

Show B (Strange New Worlds) is nearing the end of its lifespan.

A: Then retool it.

B: That statement makes no sense.

I would say the new Skydance Trek movie has at least as much chance of happening as every theatrical movie Paramount announced since 2017.

True. The track record for films has been dismal. But if it’s still business as usual now that Skydance is in charge (i.e. all lip service and no actual product), then the chances of a new TV show are even worse.
 
Show A (Starfleet Academy) wasn't bringing in the ratings.

Show B (Strange New Worlds) is nearing the end of its lifespan.

They cancelled both at the same time. Almost like when Nemesis and Enterprise marked the end of the Berman years.

I think people are finally starting to puke it back up when offered nothing but nostalgia.
 
DSC got cancelled.

PIC only lasted its three contracted seasons and was not renewed for more (or Legacy.)

LDS got cancelled.

Prodigy got cancelled.

SNW got cancelled.

SFA got cancelled.


But yes, by all means Paramount/Skydance, make yet another show.
 
DSC got cancelled.

After five seasons. Which seems to be at the higher end of streaming runs.

PIC only lasted its three contracted seasons and was not renewed for more (or Legacy.)

There was no star to lead Legacy.

LDS got cancelled.

After five seasons. Same thing applies as it does to Discovery.

SNW got cancelled.

After five seasons. Same thing applies as Discovery and Lower Decks.

I definitely think it is time for Trek to take a rest, the Kurtzman years ran their course. But there were more successes than there were failures. Plus, we're beginning to see backlash towards products that rely solely on nostalgia as their sole reason to exist. The old fans are dying and very few young people are interested in the 1960's view of the future. I'd say the same things are happening to Star Wars (to a lesser but still noticeable degree) and Doctor Who. Then you have the Stargate cancellation.

I believe that, culturally, we're at a turning point. We're moving past the things that were big draws decades ago.
 
After five seasons. Which seems to be at the higher end of streaming runs.



There was no star to lead Legacy.



After five seasons. Same thing applies as it does to Discovery.



After five seasons. Same thing applies as Discovery and Lower Decks.

I definitely think it is time for Trek to take a rest, the Kurtzman years ran their course. But there were more successes than there were failures. Plus, we're beginning to see backlash towards products that rely solely on nostalgia as their sole reason to exist. The old fans are dying and very few young people are interested in the 1960's view of the future. I'd say the same things are happening to Star Wars (to a lesser but still noticeable degree) and Doctor Who. Then you have the Stargate cancellation.

I believe that, culturally, we're at a turning point. We're moving past the things that were big draws decades ago.

The shows did not get canceled because the prevailing feeling was that five season was the max they wanted to do from the start. The only show that was envisioned to last a certain number of seasons was SFA (four, to coincide with college semesters), but that didn’t happen either. Even PIC would have been renewed if they wanted to keep it going.
 
The shows did not get canceled because the prevailing feeling was that five season was the max they wanted to do from the start.

I imagine diminishing returns are why we see various streaming shows pulled well before their due date. Actors make more, behind the scenes folks make more. There simply isn't the same thriving syndication market on the back end to help make up costs associated with it.
 
While five seasons is a great run for these shows, the creatives behind them were clearly working under the assumption there was no upper limit to the seasons they'd get. Discovery and Lower Decks even had to tweak their finales because it was unexpected.SNW had to beg for a fifth season, Academy got the rug pull.
 
I imagine diminishing returns are why we see various streaming shows pulled well before their due date. Actors make more, behind the scenes folks make more. There simply isn't the same thriving syndication market on the back end to help make up costs associated with it.

And I think those diminishing returns have to do with the streaming model being like this:

1. One ten-episode season with each episode shown each week, so the season lasts about 2 to 2 1/2 months.

2. One-to-two year break between seasons.

The audience at best has forgotten what happened the previous season and needs to binge watch it again to keep up. At worst, they say screw that and just lose interest in the show. So unless the show is a powerhouse like The Boys or For All Mankind, you’re gonna lose viewers with this streaming model.
 
...the creatives behind them were clearly working under the assumption there was no upper limit to the seasons they'd get.

Which shows they weren't the brightest bulbs. Shows live and die on the whims of whomever owns them at any particular time. Being professionals, they should know that.
 
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