Check the credits.Am I the only one that thinks this looks like one of Forbin's kitbashes?
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Q2UnME
Check the credits.Am I the only one that thinks this looks like one of Forbin's kitbashes?
* crickets *
What?
Q2UnME
Quite true. I believe I once heard something about how if a ship when into warp with a defective deflector (say that three times fast), a particle of space dust could tear her apart. Again... important piece of technology.... and they didn't last long without them.The operative word there being "obvious."Several ships in Trek, both alien and Federation, lack obvious deflectors.
The wide majority of Starfleet ships we've seen have clearly had a deflector of some sort. Those ships that haven't have been few and far between.![]()
Quite true. I believe I once heard something about how if a ship when into warp with a defective deflector (say that three times fast), a particle of space dust could tear her apart. Again... important piece of technology.... and they didn't last long without them.The operative word there being "obvious."
The wide majority of Starfleet ships we've seen have clearly had a deflector of some sort. Those ships that haven't have been few and far between.![]()
Quite true. I believe I once heard something about how if a ship when into warp with a defective deflector (say that three times fast), a particle of space dust could tear her apart. Again... important piece of technology.... and they didn't last long without them.![]()
Yes, an important piece of technology... which needn't be a big visual element. It is my understanding that the dish is a sensor dish, and the deflector also uses this dish, but you could also put the deflector in a seperate location. Perhaps in much the way that radar is placed in a modern-day airplane. This works with the Miranda, Obereth, Kelvin, etc.
Who knows if the Kelvin does or doesn't have a dish like the ones we've grown accustomed to seeing? I'm merely guessing that a deflector dish which is a prominent visual element will likely be a part of the Kelvin (on either the top or bottom) as compared to being concealed off somewhere else, as that's simply not how the majority of Trek ships traditionally look. I mean, TPTB have obviously gone out of their way to show us (and to state, as Orci and Kurtzman have) that ships in their Starfleet look like the ships in the Starfleet we know and love. I don't see why they'd go against the grain here.Quite true. I believe I once heard something about how if a ship when into warp with a defective deflector (say that three times fast), a particle of space dust could tear her apart. Again... important piece of technology.... and they didn't last long without them.![]()
Yes, an important piece of technology... which needn't be a big visual element. It is my understanding that the dish is a sensor dish, and the deflector also uses this dish, but you could also put the deflector in a seperate location. Perhaps in much the way that radar is placed in a modern-day airplane. This works with the Miranda, Obereth, Kelvin, etc.
Absolutely. That is the ABSOLUTE biggest problem I have with this movie. BOYCOTT!!11!!!!!1That ship is fugly. And why is the registry NCC-0514? Wouldn't it make more sense to make it NCC-514? Jeez, that's a stupid registry number.
I agree, I looked at the picture on my phone then fliped my phone upside down the blue thing looks more like a primary hull with a deflector and the red could actually be a nacellThe blue thing is the deflector, the red thing just poking through at the bottom is the nacelle. I think it looks pretty good!
It looks like the edge of the saucer section is canted the opposite angle from what we've had in the past. I wonder if the ship, apparently in battle, is in a roll and we are seeing the ventral side. That's more in keeping with tradion (nacelles above and deflector dish below the saucer).
I agree, I looked at the picture on my phone then fliped my phone upside down the blue thing looks more like a primary hull with a deflector and the red could actually be a nacellThe blue thing is the deflector, the red thing just poking through at the bottom is the nacelle. I think it looks pretty good!
It looks like the edge of the saucer section is canted the opposite angle from what we've had in the past. I wonder if the ship, apparently in battle, is in a roll and we are seeing the ventral side. That's more in keeping with tradion (nacelles above and deflector dish below the saucer).
Not at warp... though they were traveling at near-light-speed when the Borg made their little strafing run on the Phoenix.Didn't the Enterprise-E *cut off* the deflector dish in First Contact and still make it home?
Not at warp... though they were traveling at near-light-speed when the Borg made their little strafing run on the Phoenix.Didn't the Enterprise-E *cut off* the deflector dish in First Contact and still make it home?
Wouldn't they also have to achieve warp to get back to their own time? Without a deflector dish? Amazing!Not at warp... though they were traveling at near-light-speed when the Borg made their little strafing run on the Phoenix.Didn't the Enterprise-E *cut off* the deflector dish in First Contact and still make it home?
So? Even at Earth-orbit speeds, it takes very little mass to have a hellavalot of satellite-damaging kinetic energy (since mass has a linear relationship with Ek, while velocity has a squared relationship). At relativistic (high sublight) speeds, a teeny rock would tear a huge hole in a spaceship.
Yeah, I know. AND the shields were supposedly down. *shrugs* They obviously didn't take everything into account. Hard science has never been what Trek has done best.Not at warp... though they were traveling at near-light-speed when the Borg made their little strafing run on the Phoenix.Didn't the Enterprise-E *cut off* the deflector dish in First Contact and still make it home?
So? Even at Earth-orbit speeds, it takes very little mass to have a hellavalot of satellite-damaging kinetic energy (since mass has a linear relationship with Ek, while velocity has a squared relationship). At relativistic (high sublight) speeds, a teeny rock would tear a huge hole in a spaceship.
That ship is fugly. And why is the registry NCC-0514? Wouldn't it make more sense to make it NCC-514? Jeez, that's a stupid registry number.
That ship is fugly. And why is the registry NCC-0514? Wouldn't it make more sense to make it NCC-514? Jeez, that's a stupid registry number.
Am I the only one that thinks this looks like one of Forbin's kitbashes?
* crickets *
What?
Q2UnME
I agree, I looked at the picture on my phone then fliped my phone upside down the blue thing looks more like a primary hull with a deflector and the red could actually be a nacelleIt looks like the edge of the saucer section is canted the opposite angle from what we've had in the past. I wonder if the ship, apparently in battle, is in a roll and we are seeing the ventral side. That's more in keeping with tradion (nacelles above and deflector dish below the saucer).
But then the writing on the hull is messed up.
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