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Evidence of SNW being a possible alternate timeline from TOS

I think I've said this already, but I see SNW kinda like Smallville, in that you know where everyone is gonna end up but they're getting there their own way and some of the characters are totally different interpretations. Maybe it happened this way, maybe it happened another way, take it or leave it.

I'm just glad I'm not the one writing the tie-in books who has to reconcile this stuff. As far as I have seen in the Eaglemoss books from the 2010s, they're just putting Enterprise (2250's) and Enterprise (2260's) next to each other at their official sizes and talking about the ship having "many refits through it's lifetime"

Thats quite the stretch, pun intended!
 
In a way you sort of got your wish depending on which part of Abrams and streaming Trek you watch. The Kelvin Timeline movies and Section 31 still have the wars in the 1990s. So even Kurtzman Trek has them happening at different times and all depending on the show or movie. 2030s or 2040s in DSC, PIC and SNW, while S31 has the Eugenics Wars Augment character being from the end of the 20th century.
Which can just be attributed to effects from the Temporal War. While not the same verbatim on screen they're not wholly separated either.
 
The only thing "alternate" about this is that Carol at that time had no name. ;)

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Given that Kirky was heavily inspired by JFK, he probably almost married three to four others as well.
 
It isn't. It's the same universe and continuity.

The producers get to decide this. It's up to us to accept creator intent.

Yep. Which is why I understand just fine that CBS/Paramount consider DSC/SNW to be a direct prequel to TOS, but I personally don't feel that I have to accept it, because this stuff is all fake and subject to the whims of whoever is in charge of it at the time.
 
If one doesn't accept and embrace interpretation/reinterpretation as part of the process - indeed, much of the point - of retelling and adding to traditional stories, there is no real value in engaging with such storytelling at all.

Complaining about "violations" and "revisionism" and insisting on nonsense framing like "alternative timelines" is misguided.

It's no more productive than playing in the "one line" or "five-word" topics.
 
Given that Kirky was heavily inspired by JFK, he probably almost married three to four others as well.
This completely reminded me that sometimes SNW feels like an alternate timeline to itself. We got the impression that the loss of Rukiya's mom weighed heavily on M'Benga, and that there was a deeper story there. Then another episode had a throwaway line that M'Benga had 3 or 4 wives or something like that.

Is it inherently contradictory? No. But it feels like something hastily slapped together without thought for the sake of a punchline in the zombie episode and without care towards greater worldbuilding. If SNW can feel like that towards itself, I can sort of understand how some feel that SNW isn't organically feeling like a part of TOS.
 
If one doesn't accept and embrace interpretation/reinterpretation as part of the process - indeed, much of the point - of retelling and adding to traditional stories, there is no real value in engaging with such storytelling at all.

Complaining about "violations" and "revisionism" and insisting on nonsense framing like "alternative timelines" is misguided.

It's no more productive than playing in the "one line" or "five-word" topics.

Ease off the curmudgeon pills today. :p
 
This completely reminded me that sometimes SNW feels like an alternate timeline to itself. We got the impression that the loss of Rukiya's mom weighed heavily on M'Benga, and that there was a deeper story there. Then another episode had a throwaway line that M'Benga had 3 or 4 wives or something like that.

I did get the feeling that the show was being handled by different people in S3 compared to the first two seasons. The huge gap between S2 and S3 didn't help either. But yeah, S3 felt like a different production/writers team IMO.
 
I did get the feeling that the show was being handled by different people in S3 compared to the first two seasons. The huge gap between S2 and S3 didn't help either. But yeah, S3 felt like a different production/writers team IMO.
They started production just days after the strikes ended and I think they didn't have enough time to refine the scripts.
 
This completely reminded me that sometimes SNW feels like an alternate timeline to itself. We got the impression that the loss of Rukiya's mom weighed heavily on M'Benga, and that there was a deeper story there. Then another episode had a throwaway line that M'Benga had 3 or 4 wives or something like that.
It was never said that Debra M'Benga was dead, she could be, we also don't know if she's one of the three divorcees and one annulment. If she were dead that might be a little insensitive on Pike's part. She could have been a fifth wife who died. She could be one of the four ex-wives and alive and well, perhaps their divorce was caused by Joseph wanting to keep Rukiya in the transporter buffer.
 
I did get the feeling that the show was being handled by different people in S3 compared to the first two seasons. The huge gap between S2 and S3 didn't help either. But yeah, S3 felt like a different production/writers team IMO.
Not at all.
 
i still think that star trek strange new world is set in a new star trek universe that is almost alike to the original star trek universe

but in this new star trek universe there are many differences and changes like spock having many love interests laan being a descendent of khan sam kirk a member of starfleet
 
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