I know what you mean but that was obviously only down to the OT being filmed before the prequels. Perhaps a better way of putting it would be to suggest that the prequel references are a good opportunity to flesh out the saga more.
Episode VIII production photos (possible spoilers)
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Hyperspace travel is at least 25,000 years old, and from Rebels, is based on something a space-based species can do naturally. The hyperdrive is considered an ancient technology from before the founding of the Old Republic.
Rian Johnson has posted a couple of new behind the scenes pictures. One of a X-Wing and one of what appears to be a control panel from a First Order ship or base.
http://randomchatter.com/eb-56
The Echo Base podcast was talking about a fake leaked EP8 script. I hadn't heard anything about this
They were positive it was fake, but allegedly this is the plot of the movie:
Given that they've described EP8 as breaking from the mold and being weird and trippy, I really don't expect it to be such a by the numbers plot like this. I'm expecting extensive flashbacks (ie Force Visions) to the Jedi Academy, personally.It's basically ESB. Rey is off training with Luke while Ren trains with Snoke. Meanwhile, Leia Poe and Finn go to the new New Republic capitol to try and help in the chaos of the loss of Hosnian Prime. The Senate has elected a dictator (hunh?!) played by Del Toro. This planet has an impenetrable shield to protect them from the First Order (uh, why didn't Hosnian Prime have this?!). There's a lot of corruption and fear going on there and double agents working for the FO. Leia ends up staging a coup and overthrowing Del Toro. They discover Phasma on the planet who disables the shield enabling a FO attack led by Kylo. Kylo captures Finn and Poe and tortures them so Rey will feel it in the force and be led into a trap.
Pablo on twitter has said this leaked script isn't real.
"So, what are you doing at work today, Joe?"
"Just hanging out flying a camera drone from the top of a life-sized Millennium Falcon on the side of an artificial mountain on an alien planet near an ancient Jedi Temple housing Luke Skywalker. You know, the daily grind. How about you? How are things at Starbucks?"
"Screw you, man."
The Jedi Temple rises in Kerry, Ireland?
http://www.independent.ie/entertain...wars-movie-being-built-in-kerry-34676455.html
http://www.independent.ie/entertain...wars-movie-being-built-in-kerry-34676455.html
It would seem so. That set looks nearly identical to Jedi Temple structures recently seen in SW Rebels.
And that is hella more practical sets than it seems they'd need. Well done Disney/Lucas/B Robot for not allowing CGI overload to creep back in!
And that is hella more practical sets than it seems they'd need. Well done Disney/Lucas/B Robot for not allowing CGI overload to creep back in!
I doubt the Lothal temple is the basis for these. That was a natural formation with a hidden temple built into the base. I think it's more likely that they're meant to evoke Yoda's domed hut on Dagobah. Or there's no intentional parallel at all and they just happen to fit the landscape rather well.
As for the tree, what actually came to my mind first was the force trees from the Coruscant temple. One of the recent 'Shattered Empire' comics has Luke going on a mission with Poe's mother to retrieve the last remaining saplings from an Imperial lab. The significance of them is vague, but what if this is the original tree and every subsequent Jedi temple has had a descendent of it planted in it's grounds? Slightly ironic on a number of levels then that the spare one ended up on Yavin IV.
Side note: Not sure why the ancient Jedi would hide a temple on Lothal. Perhaps it was built in the century when the Sith ruled the galaxy after the fall of the Old Republic and the Jedi were in hiding?
Well, someone's obviously a fan of The Lord of the Rings...
When was this supposed to have taken place? Is this a reference to old-canon or new-canon? In the old canon the Sith never actually ruled the entire galaxy despite what ROTS says.
It's just a direct recreation of the existing 6th century Catholic monastery on the cliffs of Skellig Michael. They just didn't want to damage it or the local wildlife by doing too much filming there.
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I would think the Lothal temple use to be some sort of training desination for younglings or padawans. Or a place of the trials. Perhaps on older version of the Gathering the Jedi did on Illum to get crystals for their lightsabers. Considering that it took two to open the temple, and Ezra got his crystal there.
That crossed my mind too, but then I remembered that real world mythology is replete with individual trees having or representing some greater cosmic significance, even if it's only metaphorical. Yggdrasil and the biblical tree of knowledge leap to mind. As does Jedi Master Ood Bnar.
Whatever the EU did or did not say is rendered moot since the movies have always trumped everything else, and in RotS, Palpatine was very explicit on the matter.
That aside, I think it's mentioned in the 'Tarkin' novel as well as 'Aftermath'. There's also some oblique references and intimations here and there if one pays attention. The "Old Republic" is mentioned more than once in the prequel-era, meaning that there was an earlier incarnation that fell at some point. Also the idea that there's an ancient Sith shrine on Coruscant indicated that they once had a presence there. Those are just off the top of my head.
If we really want to split hairs though, it seems that nobody has ever truly ruled *the whole galaxy* as there's always patches of unexplored regions, backwaters, fringe empires, independent or neutral systems that neither the Republic nor the Empire really bothered with much. The Hutts for one always seemed to remain mostly a power unto themselves even under the Empire.
It's certainly possible. I just wonder at why it would be hidden by design. The temples on Coruscant, Iilum, Vrogas Vas and Devaron all seem to be more or less out in the open, so the Jedi are hardly shy about these things.
I'm not saying that an extended period when the Jedi existed in hiding is the *only* possible explanation, but I think it's an interesting one. It ties in with the notion that the Sith once ruled the galaxy and adds a new dimension to the purpose behind Order 66. Suppose Palpatine came up with the specifically because the last time the Sith took over, the Jedi were able to go to ground en mass and were able to eventually overthrow the Sith rule.
Jedi having to live and train in hiding brings up images of religious pogroms as well as shades of the early 'Starkiller' drafts of Star Wars, with the "Jedi-Bendu" exiled and hunted by the "Knights of Sith". A part of me likes the notion that a version of those events still took place in continuity, only in the very distant past.
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I only know of the citation in the Clone Wars series. It wasn't mentioned in the prequel films at all. And of course Obi-Wan used the phrase in ANH to refer to a period including that which leads right up to the Dark Times and the Empire, so he didn't distinguish between the "Old Republic" of the present context and what came after. ( The "Somewhat Newer Republic" or the "Less Old Republic", maybe? )
