In order to allow an unjoined Trill to impersonate his dead joined twin, Odo has to masquerade as the dead Trill's symbiont, who is also dead.
Episode ideas that might be interesting
- Thread starter Laura Cynthia Chambers
- Start date
The problem with Odo having to pose as a symbiont is that then he'd make the host's immune system dependent on him and morally not be able to leave. I guess it's a fascinating idea so long as he doesn't stay there long enough for the full blending.
More gray area medical ethics. Suppose the Trill didn't tell Odo this, in fact worked hard to keep him from knowing (mental discipline block), but the goal was to commit suicide via dependency being removed, because the living one blames themselves for the death of the dead one. Odo doesn't want to be a part of this and is mad when he finds out he was being used in more ways than one.
The part of this idea I find most interesting is Odo's experience blending with another person. It'd be like the link, only with a solid, and he'd learn more about living as a solid than he did the entire rest of his life.
Story Idea.
Immediately after first finding out about the Dominion Sisko is traveling back through the wormhole, he finds himself in a meeting with the Prophets and convinces them never to allow a Dominion ship, a Founder, a Vorta or a Jem-Hadar through the wormhole.
The Prophets agree.
Sisko continue on to DS9.
Immediately after first finding out about the Dominion Sisko is traveling back through the wormhole, he finds himself in a meeting with the Prophets and convinces them never to allow a Dominion ship, a Founder, a Vorta or a Jem-Hadar through the wormhole.
The Prophets agree.
Sisko continue on to DS9.
With the war over, Sisko with the Prophets, Winn MIA, and a quadrant left in tatters after the Dominion withdraw from the AQ, Colonel Kira Nerys and her new crew onboard DS9 take centre stage as the rebuilding efforts begin. Kira soon understands the pressure Sisko was under as the Emissary, when a Vedek tells her of her place in a lost prophecy about the "Gatekeeper", the person who will watch over the Celestial Temple during the Emissary's absence.
As much as I hate to involve the Jack Pack, they fit the first decent idea to cross my mind.
Bashir becomes obsessed with curing the Gem Hadar addiction to white. He suggests that the other augments might be able to help. Sisko of course pushes back hard after what happened last time, but Starfleet intelligence nudges him and he reluctantly agrees provided they carefully examine exactly what information they are given this time. They are running into brick walls everywhere, finding the genetic engineering even more advanced than they realized. One day they all wake up and find out they've been abducted by Section 31. They have been conducting this research on their own and have a live gem'hadar to experiment on. Bashir of course struggles with the morality of this and hates it but is ultimately convinced that it's a necessary moral tradeoff. Together they get close to a cure. Jack then realizes that Section 31 has developed an extremely contagious retrovirus to deliver this. The gem hadar in captivity, they give the cure. And they find that the gem'hadar have a failsafe built into them that causes them to die if they are genetically altered. It dawns on them they have become party to genocide.
Through all this there's a subplot of Jack and the group feeling very valued at Section 31, being allowed to do things they would not be allowed to do in the Federation. So Bashir has an argument with them and Jack tells the Section 31 agents what Bashir is trying to do. They sedate him and send him back to the station. Later Jack has a change of heart and stages a temper tantrum to distract them while he switches out the research with a fake cure. So he is thrown out of Section 31 and he arrives at the station to give the real research back to Bashir.
Bashir becomes obsessed with curing the Gem Hadar addiction to white. He suggests that the other augments might be able to help. Sisko of course pushes back hard after what happened last time, but Starfleet intelligence nudges him and he reluctantly agrees provided they carefully examine exactly what information they are given this time. They are running into brick walls everywhere, finding the genetic engineering even more advanced than they realized. One day they all wake up and find out they've been abducted by Section 31. They have been conducting this research on their own and have a live gem'hadar to experiment on. Bashir of course struggles with the morality of this and hates it but is ultimately convinced that it's a necessary moral tradeoff. Together they get close to a cure. Jack then realizes that Section 31 has developed an extremely contagious retrovirus to deliver this. The gem hadar in captivity, they give the cure. And they find that the gem'hadar have a failsafe built into them that causes them to die if they are genetically altered. It dawns on them they have become party to genocide.
Through all this there's a subplot of Jack and the group feeling very valued at Section 31, being allowed to do things they would not be allowed to do in the Federation. So Bashir has an argument with them and Jack tells the Section 31 agents what Bashir is trying to do. They sedate him and send him back to the station. Later Jack has a change of heart and stages a temper tantrum to distract them while he switches out the research with a fake cure. So he is thrown out of Section 31 and he arrives at the station to give the real research back to Bashir.
I wonder how many people in the Federation, both the Empires and elsewhere died because of Jack's action?
Don’t give me the ends justify the means even to the extremes of total genocide garbage. Isolationist excuse for atrocities in the name of ‘National self interest’, completely indefensible.
I think an interesting episode(s) would have been to show the plight of Cardassians living under Klingon occupation between season 4 and 5 and perhaps even the subsequent taking back of those planets by Cardassian troops.
It would have made the subsequent war have a bit more of a grey dynamic to it and help to show why many Cardassians would have approved of joining.
It would have made the subsequent war have a bit more of a grey dynamic to it and help to show why many Cardassians would have approved of joining.
This is a story I would want to watch. Leaving the creative bankrupt producers not to have another super baddie which terrorized the Federation. The Borg was enough, and the Cardassians were sophisticated adversaries to continue the conflicts within the Bajorans, Starfleet, and the wormhole.
Last edited:
Early season 7.
After narrowly surviving a surprise Dominion attack that leaves the station badly crippled, and Worf in a coma, the senior staff are surprised to discover the rest of the station's population are missing, as are the Defiant and the runabouts. Things are pretty desperate and the station is in absolute shambles, so treatment for Worf takes a back seat to repairing life support... Then, some want to allocate resources to finding the missing crew and civilians, while others want to focus on shields and weapons for battle readiness in case the Jem'Hadar return. They find they can't raise Starfleet or Bajor on the radio, even after repairing subspace communications.
Ezri is notably absent throughout, but this is not acknowledged. In fact it's even mentioned in dialogue "The station doesn't have counsellors assigned." They do all, at one point or another, comment on Jadzia's recent death, expressing remorse bordering on guilt, wishing she were here to help solve their predicament, etc.
As they all continue to disagree on how to prioritize addressing the situation, it becomes clear that their philosophical approaches have taken on an almost Klingon flair. Tensions mount further as they discover they each have no specific recent episodic memories prior to the attack.
O'Brien and Bashir are eventually able to determine that they are all actually holographic representations created by Worf for a series of gruellingly detailed tactical simulations in which the station is left to defend on its own without external support. Worf must feel guilty for leaving Jadzia behind the day she was killed, and has been transferring that guilt into questioning his professional confidence as strategic operations officer. Hence, the simulations, in which he programmed each of their personalities based somewhat on his own biased perspective of their characters, hence their klingon 'flair.' Fortunately, the holographic safety protocols are still in effect, but ultimately, Worf ran these simulations over and over non-stop in his off-duty time until he literally collapsed in exhaustion from stress and grief.
Holo-Bashir does what he can for Worf in the infirmary, but finds limited success using holographic medical equipment on a real patient (the resolution of the holo-projectors in Quark's holosuites aren't up to the task of accurately producing working versions of the microsurgical tools he needs). The holo-crew decide they must somehow signal the real crew outside the holosuite so they can save Worf's life.
They try using Worf's commbadge, but it has been linked into the holographic simulation. They discover that the only way to save him is to set the badge to emit a continuous emergency beacon, and then terminate the holographic simulation entirely despite the fact that doing so will terminate their existence. They consider this to be an honourable death, to save their crewmate, and perform a self-destruct of the station inside the holo-program.
The plan works, and real-life Bashir subsequently saves Worf. Then there's some talk of having him relieved of duty for a while which rubs him the wrong way (especially when he thinks it might be Ezri's idea), so he more-or-less temporarily rage-quits Starfleet to spend a few weeks with the Klingons (as seen in the series leading into the episode Shadows and Symbols when he goes on that cranky dangerous mission to get Jadzia into Sto-Vo-Kor).
Bashir and Ezri are left in the infirmary wondering who activated the emergency beacon in Worf's commbadge when he was unconscious and nobody else was around, Ezri suggests Worf must have guardian angels.
After narrowly surviving a surprise Dominion attack that leaves the station badly crippled, and Worf in a coma, the senior staff are surprised to discover the rest of the station's population are missing, as are the Defiant and the runabouts. Things are pretty desperate and the station is in absolute shambles, so treatment for Worf takes a back seat to repairing life support... Then, some want to allocate resources to finding the missing crew and civilians, while others want to focus on shields and weapons for battle readiness in case the Jem'Hadar return. They find they can't raise Starfleet or Bajor on the radio, even after repairing subspace communications.
Ezri is notably absent throughout, but this is not acknowledged. In fact it's even mentioned in dialogue "The station doesn't have counsellors assigned." They do all, at one point or another, comment on Jadzia's recent death, expressing remorse bordering on guilt, wishing she were here to help solve their predicament, etc.
As they all continue to disagree on how to prioritize addressing the situation, it becomes clear that their philosophical approaches have taken on an almost Klingon flair. Tensions mount further as they discover they each have no specific recent episodic memories prior to the attack.
O'Brien and Bashir are eventually able to determine that they are all actually holographic representations created by Worf for a series of gruellingly detailed tactical simulations in which the station is left to defend on its own without external support. Worf must feel guilty for leaving Jadzia behind the day she was killed, and has been transferring that guilt into questioning his professional confidence as strategic operations officer. Hence, the simulations, in which he programmed each of their personalities based somewhat on his own biased perspective of their characters, hence their klingon 'flair.' Fortunately, the holographic safety protocols are still in effect, but ultimately, Worf ran these simulations over and over non-stop in his off-duty time until he literally collapsed in exhaustion from stress and grief.
Holo-Bashir does what he can for Worf in the infirmary, but finds limited success using holographic medical equipment on a real patient (the resolution of the holo-projectors in Quark's holosuites aren't up to the task of accurately producing working versions of the microsurgical tools he needs). The holo-crew decide they must somehow signal the real crew outside the holosuite so they can save Worf's life.
They try using Worf's commbadge, but it has been linked into the holographic simulation. They discover that the only way to save him is to set the badge to emit a continuous emergency beacon, and then terminate the holographic simulation entirely despite the fact that doing so will terminate their existence. They consider this to be an honourable death, to save their crewmate, and perform a self-destruct of the station inside the holo-program.
The plan works, and real-life Bashir subsequently saves Worf. Then there's some talk of having him relieved of duty for a while which rubs him the wrong way (especially when he thinks it might be Ezri's idea), so he more-or-less temporarily rage-quits Starfleet to spend a few weeks with the Klingons (as seen in the series leading into the episode Shadows and Symbols when he goes on that cranky dangerous mission to get Jadzia into Sto-Vo-Kor).
Bashir and Ezri are left in the infirmary wondering who activated the emergency beacon in Worf's commbadge when he was unconscious and nobody else was around, Ezri suggests Worf must have guardian angels.
Last edited:
And here's just a small piece of an idea.
A changeling comes through the wormhole in a one-man craft. Her story is, she was originally one of the Hundred who had already found her way back to, and been accepted for some time by, the Founders. Like Odo, she is a philosophical objector to the Alpha-Quadrant invasion, but for very different reasons. Things are further complicated when she reveals her intention is to defect from the Founders-- To the Romulan Star Empire.
A changeling comes through the wormhole in a one-man craft. Her story is, she was originally one of the Hundred who had already found her way back to, and been accepted for some time by, the Founders. Like Odo, she is a philosophical objector to the Alpha-Quadrant invasion, but for very different reasons. Things are further complicated when she reveals her intention is to defect from the Founders-- To the Romulan Star Empire.
It isn't an episode idea but a scene idea I would've liked to have seen filmed and aired near the beginning of an episode.
Quark, Odo, Sisko and Kira are playing a board game while talking about things related to the main plot of the episode (Dominion War or whatever). As the game continues and the dialogue goes on, the camera pulls back and we see that the game they are playing is Monopoly. Finally an annoyed Odo rolls and lands on Boardwalk which is owned by Quark!. Quark points out that he has a hotel there! And the scene ends.
Quark, Odo, Sisko and Kira are playing a board game while talking about things related to the main plot of the episode (Dominion War or whatever). As the game continues and the dialogue goes on, the camera pulls back and we see that the game they are playing is Monopoly. Finally an annoyed Odo rolls and lands on Boardwalk which is owned by Quark!. Quark points out that he has a hotel there! And the scene ends.
Last edited:
Make sure Quark also owns the orange properties. The actors don't have to have a line saying it, just a glimpse of the orange deeds in Quark's pile.
It would interesting to learn her reasons! I figured the Founders would not be satisfied until Romulus was in ruins, like Cardassia Prime, because both participated in the attempted genocide.
Had a thought of an idea in the first half of the series (definitely before Sisko's promotion).
Sisko is called from his office when a Starfleet ship makes an unexpected arrival. An Admiral is onboard and asks to be beamed over immediately. They and a Captain materialise in Ops, where the Admiral announces that Sisko is being relieved of his post and the Captain will assume command of DS9. In a private meeting, the Admiral explains that HQ are very uncomfortable with Sisko's place in Bajoran mythology and so are reassigning him elsewhere. The Captain is far more closed off than Sisko, with a low opinion of Bajorans and often treats Dax more as his XO than Kira, seeing her as little more than a figurehead.
As Sisko packs, Kira confronts him insisting he stays, but he accepts that as an officer reassignment was always an option, as well as his relief over no longer being a religious icon. Kira absconds with a runabout, heading for Bajor to try and use what influence she has to try and rally support to keep him at the station. Meanwhile, Jake and Nog have to come to terms with the fact that their friendship is in jeopardy, given the distance that will be between them. Sisko must also say farewell to Dax and the others onboard the station (even the likes of Quark).
Things are further complicated when a Cardassian ship arrives at the station, invited by Starfleet to discuss a new amendment to the treaty. This of course has everyone on edge. Whilst on Bajor, Kira gets nowhere and returns to the station defeated. Heading through the corridors, she is set upon by a couple of Cardassian soldiers looking to relive the good old days with a comfort woman, though she deals with them she is arrested by Starfleet security but the Gul demands she be handed over to them for prosecution of the unprovoked assault.
This puts Bajor at odds with Starfleet, threatening to end their partnership and request for Federation membership if she isn't released. It's only with Sisko stepping in as a character witness for her that the Captain backs her account of events, which eases the Bajoran stance and sees the Gul rescind their demand. The Captain concedes that Sisko is better suited to the post, though his role as the Emissary may make Starfleet uncomfortable it has gone a long way to build a stronger relationship with Bajor in a short space of time, and passes on their recommendation on to the Admiral that Sisko remain in command.
Sisko is called from his office when a Starfleet ship makes an unexpected arrival. An Admiral is onboard and asks to be beamed over immediately. They and a Captain materialise in Ops, where the Admiral announces that Sisko is being relieved of his post and the Captain will assume command of DS9. In a private meeting, the Admiral explains that HQ are very uncomfortable with Sisko's place in Bajoran mythology and so are reassigning him elsewhere. The Captain is far more closed off than Sisko, with a low opinion of Bajorans and often treats Dax more as his XO than Kira, seeing her as little more than a figurehead.
As Sisko packs, Kira confronts him insisting he stays, but he accepts that as an officer reassignment was always an option, as well as his relief over no longer being a religious icon. Kira absconds with a runabout, heading for Bajor to try and use what influence she has to try and rally support to keep him at the station. Meanwhile, Jake and Nog have to come to terms with the fact that their friendship is in jeopardy, given the distance that will be between them. Sisko must also say farewell to Dax and the others onboard the station (even the likes of Quark).
Things are further complicated when a Cardassian ship arrives at the station, invited by Starfleet to discuss a new amendment to the treaty. This of course has everyone on edge. Whilst on Bajor, Kira gets nowhere and returns to the station defeated. Heading through the corridors, she is set upon by a couple of Cardassian soldiers looking to relive the good old days with a comfort woman, though she deals with them she is arrested by Starfleet security but the Gul demands she be handed over to them for prosecution of the unprovoked assault.
This puts Bajor at odds with Starfleet, threatening to end their partnership and request for Federation membership if she isn't released. It's only with Sisko stepping in as a character witness for her that the Captain backs her account of events, which eases the Bajoran stance and sees the Gul rescind their demand. The Captain concedes that Sisko is better suited to the post, though his role as the Emissary may make Starfleet uncomfortable it has gone a long way to build a stronger relationship with Bajor in a short space of time, and passes on their recommendation on to the Admiral that Sisko remain in command.
Similar threads
