Entertainment Weekly Cover Story (7/28)

[Tuskin38]

Can we please ignore the really stupids parts of canon?

It is a solid fact, not sure how it can be ignored.

I also don't understand how it is stupid.

 

[Mudd]

Spock doesn't know everything.

There - canon fixed.

 

[{ Emilia }]

It is a solid fact, not sure how it can be ignored.

I also don't understand how it is stupid.

It's stupid because it would mean we can't see one of the most iconic Trek races in a new Trek show.

 

[Tuskin38]

It's stupid because it would mean we can't see one of the most iconic Trek races in a new Trek show.

Should they bring the Borg too? They're pretty iconic.

 

[M'Sharak]

A new news article has been published at TrekToday:

The new issue of Entertainment Weekly has been released and Star Trek: Discovery is on its cover this issue. In this new...

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While this article does seem to be tagged "Star Trek Into Darkness," going by content it's really all about Star Trek: Discovery, so I'll just send it off to the forum set aside for that subject.

Hold onto your drinks while the thread is in motion...

 

[Michael]

^ Sure, bring them on. If done well.

It is a solid fact, not sure how it can be ignored.

I also don't understand how it is stupid.

You are telling me in an interstellar all-out war with faster-than-light traveling ships there was no visual communication? They never met on the ground? Not once?

Stupid.

 

[Tuskin38]

You are telling me in an interstellar all-out war with faster-than-light traveling ships there was no visual communication? They never met on the ground? Not once?

Stupid.

Yes, that is what I'm saying.

And it is easy to explain as a cover up to not alienate the Vulcans.

The Romulans never communicated visually in Enterprise either.

 

[Michael]

Yes, that is what I'm saying.

But come on, it's essentially a gimmick for one (!) episode. Why should it define everything about that species going forward? I think it's better to ignore that particular plot point.

And it is easy to explain as a cover up to not alienate the Vulcans.

Now that's even more stupid.

The Romulans never communicated in Enterprise either.

There was no Earth-Romulan war in Enterprise.

 

[Tuskin38]

There was no Earth-Romulan war in Enterprise.

Yes but there was an encounter with a Romulan Bird of Prey.

I think the Romulan War novels explained a no-visual contact war very well.

Even if we ignore the fact that they never saw each other, there is also the fact that there was no (recorded) contact between the two powers since the end of the war.

I already explained how they could easily get around those two issues.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

Which is exactly why that part of continuity needs to go and it will. They're not going to forego or limit using the Romulans because of a line from a 50-year old episode.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'm not against them appearing in the show, but it needs to stay mostly consistent with Balance of Terror.

And it is really easy to do.

 

[Vger23]

I think it's a little early to be worried about Romulans.

 

[Vger23]

There's a lot more space between transporter pads than later designs (or earlier series...depending on how you look at it). Cool looking room. I like the uniforms too.

 

[BillJ]

Can we please ignore the really stupids parts of canon?

That's why you reboot. If the word "God" is a huge issue, then there's no way it meshes with the original Star Trek.

Should they bring the Borg too? They're pretty iconic.

I'm up for more Borg. Screw canon.

 

[cultcross]

I'm not against them appearing in the show, but it needs to stay mostly consistent with Balance of Terror.

It really doesn't. It needs to be a great story and use the Romulans well. Doesn't matter if that little weird piece of canon (which looks especially silly next to all the visual communication with everyone except the Romulans in ENT) gets overwritten. The plot point in BoT was 'don't be racist because they look like Spock', it doesn't need to tie writers' hands forever.

 

[Tuskin38]

It is a major point in the story. It completely removes the reason for the racism.

Anyways, i'm sorry for completely derailing the topic, lets get back to talking about the Cover story.

 

[Spider]

I see there are two people on the same transporter pad. That could lead to some interesting "accidents".

 

[Vger23]

That's why you reboot. If the word "God" is a huge issue, then there's no way it meshes with the original Star Trek.



I'm up for more Borg. Screw canon.

I'd find it odd that Star Trek is being pushed toward more diversity and the idea respecting varied beliefs/cultures...but the characters can't even speak the word "God."

 

[BillJ]

...but the characters can't even speak the word "God."

I find it odd for a group of people who are supposed to be well-versed in "Star Trek" are more worried about Gene's Vision than what has actually happened on the various series. This is supposed to line up with TOS, but it sure doesn't sound like it understands the context of the times in which it was made. They've boiled the Prime timeline down to names and dates, at best, and are claiming to respect it. I just don't see it.

CBS should've asked for that tidbit to be cut out of the article.

 

[Michael]

I find it odd for a group of people who are supposed to be well-versed in "Star Trek" are more worried about Gene's Vision than what has actually happened on the various series. This is supposed to line up with TOS, but it sure doesn't sound like it understands the context of the times in which it was made. They've boiled the Prime timeline down to names and dates, at best, and are claiming to respect it. I just don't see it.

CBS should've asked for that tidbit to be cut out of the article.

“A group of people”? We are talking about one writer here, not the whole writer's room. I have a hard time believing, for example, that Nick Meyer has a problem with Lorca uttering “God.” Let's not blow this out of proportion here.