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[JD]

Talk about a discussion that wandered off-track

Well, Bayer is a writer on Discovery so that at least makes this closer to the topic than some discussions we've had on here in the past.

 

[fireproof78]

Sorry but no, you don't get to claim someone is lying without evidence.

Doubly so if you are trying to use the claim of a lie to justify violating previously stated canon of the setting.

I'm not calling you a liar so much as I cannot find to what you are referring. There is not a solid, canonical, origin of the Q, beyond the fact that they were humanoid and mortal. Ok, that leaves room for interpretation.

And, I just want to know what, specifically, you are referencing, because this will just keep going in circles like this, and I don't care about Q enough to have that discussion.

 

[Fateor]

I'm not calling you a liar so much as I cannot find to what you are referring. There is not a solid, canonical, origin of the Q, beyond the fact that they were humanoid and mortal. Ok, that leaves room for interpretation.

And, I just want to know what, specifically, you are referencing, because this will just keep going in circles like this, and I don't care about Q enough to have that discussion.

Yes it leaves room for interpenetration, but not the interpenetration Kristin chose since it was "that they were never mortal".

 

[fireproof78]

Yes it leaves room for interpenetration, but not the interpenetration Kristin chose since it was "that they were never mortal".

And, I'm just calling Quinn's and Q's remarks in to question, since neither are accurate historians. I see no reason to accept it at face value.

 

[BillJ]

I could think of like 3 or 4 better ways she could have brought Janeway back just off hand.

You realize that authors of licensed material don't have a blank check to do whatever they want? Stories have to be approved by the license holder. You don't know she didn't have the same exact ideas but they were nixed for whatever reason by CBS.

 

[The Wormhole]

I know a lot of Star Trek fans hate Voyager, but that doesn't mean Death Wish where Quinn talks about how the Q originated as humanoid race suddenly disappeares.

Curiously enough, the words humanoid and origin are spoken in the same sentence by Q in that episode, you clearly got your wires crossed. From the Big Bang scene:

TUVOK: Captain, based on our readings, it appears we've been transported back in time to the birth of the universe.
QUINN: Very old hiding place.
Q: Oh, I know all the hiding places, Q. I hid here from the Continuum myself once.
TORRES: This ship will not survive the formation of the cosmos.
Q: Yes, but just think of the honour of having your DNA spread from one corner of the universe to the other. Why, you could be the origin of the humanoid form.