Enterprise is a better show than Discovery

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by bobjones, Sep 12, 2022.

  1. fireproof78

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    Aesthetic choices are that. I see no inspiration in the link you shared, and it feels, as you say...dull, boring and uninspired. It doesn't draw my eye in any special way. Nor does it have a weight to it that makes me go "Yup, that's a ship in space."
     
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  2. Dukhat

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    I’m not arguing with you about your opinion of how the ship looks. I’m saying that it looks realistic enough to me that it would have worked as the Discoprise.
     
  3. fireproof78

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    I'm not arguing either. I am stating my opinion. A mutual exchange of opinions as it were.

    But, I appreciate you saying why it works for you. It helps.
     
  4. Sci

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    ENT S1-2 was a directionless, meandering mess that was leading to nothing. It was ENT S4 that finally started doing storylines that could plausibly lead to the founding of the Federation.

    They made the main character Spock's adopted sister. They were not trying to "retcon TOS out of existence" and the idea they were is absurd on its face.

    Oh, c'mon. "Mid-point?" It's very nearly the same design as the TOS 1701.
     
  5. fireproof78

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    They addressed this but the point being made is that the visuals are being retconned, not the events themselves. It's the emphasis on the visual continuity as carrying as much weight as characters and events.

    Obviously not retconning all of TOS, but the visuals are being changed, at least from certain point of view :)
     
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  6. Dukhat

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    The Discoprise has the same configuration as the TOS Enterprise but with clear design attributes from the NX-01.
     
  7. nightwind1

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    Meh...
     
  8. Dukhat

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    You're entitled to your opinion.
     
  9. nightwind1

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    Gee, thanks for letting me know that. I'm glad you approve.
     
  10. fireproof78

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    Well, that's why we post here, right? To get approval and certified Trek fan cards? I keep getting told mine's in the mail...

    ...

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    ;)
     
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  11. Dukhat

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    I think you misunderstand. I wasn’t being flippant. I was stating that I get that you don’t care for the design as much as I do.
     
  12. gweeps

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    Yes, ENT is the better show.

    It's not tied to the OS nearly as much.

    There are more episodes to delve into the universe.

    You get to know more of the characters, well except for Travis...

    Every major plotline doesn't revolve around one character.

    It has plenty of great one-off episodes, but still manages to have some longform arcs.

    You can hear the actors talk instead of the constant whispering on DIS.

    I don't have a desire to rewatch any of DIS unlike ENT. I do enjoy bits and pieces of DIS though, but that's not enough to overcome the huge flaws.

    Still, I'll watch Season 5 next year. lol
     
  13. Sci

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    On a plot level, that was true for the first two seasons of DIS. It's not true anymore. Structurally, ENT was imitating TOS a lot more with its focus on three main characters.

    Nah. Phlox, Hoshi, Malcolm, and Travis are all developed significantly less than Saru, Paul, Hugh, Adira, Gray, etc.

    "Plenty."

    ??? That's a you problem, not a DIS problem. The sound mix is fine.
     
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  14. Richard S. Ta

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    Neither is that the case with Discovery.

    You don't seem to understand what 'constant' means.
     
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