Re: ENT Forum Mediation Thread--Please Participate
Posted by Dennis Bailey:
Samuel T. Cogley is actually one of the most real folks who hangs around these parts -- a guy with a consistent code of behavior and integrity, who while he may adopt a fictional personna never claims to be things IRL that he is not.
I'll have to trust you on that one. He sure comes across as a brilliant lawyer, doesn't he? But again, (and I am NOT saying he is a liar) ... imagine how difficult this situation has now become. Someone (not me) says "prove it." What has then happened, although almost likely 100% true, is that someone has managed to attack the credibility of Sam Cogley, leaving doubt in the public mind, and making it his burden of proof to prove a negative wrong. THAT is where we have the problem. BUT FOR THE RECORD, I must trust you and do trust you when you say these things. Inadmissable heresay, and irrelevant. My mistake in the past is making irrelevant things relevant, and here's why I say this:
This isn't necessarily as true of all of us who use our own names as we would like the simple practice of doing so to imply.
On the heels of my post, if we were on Capella 4 you would have just called me a liar. Since we are on Earth, I'll just assume that the comment was accidental.
But here's the distinction. If a cartoon character would say that Dick Tracey, Steve Austin, or any other cartoon character has a certain set of negatives, no real family is hurt, no real feelings SHOULD be hurt, and only a mask is scratched (or a bionic arm). I'm not saying it's right, but it is just not IRL something that is going to affect that person's families, reputation, integrity, honor, manhood (if appropriate) ... etc. Sure, if someone hiding behind a mask gets feelings hurt, it's sad but just not the same as saying things about a real person.
Again, IT'S MY FAULT. I am the king of irrelevant sidebars, and I take full responsibility for that, making no attempt to hide behind a mask, and making no claims I can't back up. But, 99% of the time, it was all irrelevant to the discussion, which still, makes it my fault.
By the way,
(deleted) is where the link is. On the subject of irrelevancy, the name of the LIBERTY 72 project is changing. I need a good trademark and intellectual property lawyer, so have Sam Cogley write me, IF he is a lawyer (that is a joke - of course he is, but do you see how easy this is to slam people unfairly?) - NO, I'm not taking the Johnny Come Lately LIBERTY ENTERPRISES that is suddenly a real corporation to court. OF COURSE I could, but that's not me.
It's easy to call someone a liar, Mr. Bailey. Even on Capella 4. It's harder to prove it, and I think the burden of proof should be on the person making the accusiation.
BUT in most cases, it's just chatter on the internet that doesn't affect real life, just the feelings of the person behind the mask. But as always, if I have unduly offended anyone, I do indeed apologize.
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Edited To Add: Marketing mentions that I have plugged a commercial product in the link - against board rules, so I withdrawl that link, although anyone who did see it may e-mail me or marketing and get their links posted for free for the remainder of 2003. Sorry about that. In the real world, most mistakes are expensive. The site is not supposed to be going commercial until the 15th, but apparently some things have already slipped in there. Edited#2 - Marketing wants me to clarify - links SUBMITTED before December 31st will stay up forver, or until we decide to drop them, whichever comes first, at no cost and for no obligation to the submitter for anything that remains after January 1st - Marketing is NOT a lawyer, just a Paralegal.)