Ender's Game
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Mine too. Though these days I'd probably say I like Speaker better. The Ribeira clan is just so much fun.
I like Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead equally. They're both fantastic, but they're also very different stories.
It's been such a long time since I've read any of them, though.
I have fond memories from reading this novel in middle school, but it's hard to say how much any impressions I had at that age would compare to my impressions now. I've read reviews of the novel more recently that accuse it of being adolescent wish-fulfillment. They're probably true, which is why I have yet to return to the book even though I still have it on my shelf.
Also, learning that Orson Scott Card is a xenophobic nutjob has certainly put me off from reading any of his books. Yes, I realize that I should differentiate between the work and the author, but in this case, Card is so crazy, it's hard.
Also, learning that Orson Scott Card is a xenophobic nutjob has certainly put me off from reading any of his books. Yes, I realize that I should differentiate between the work and the author, but in this case, Card is so crazy, it's hard.
I read Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead in college, then finished out the original series a few years later. Orson Scott Card really nailed it with this series, but I haven't enjoyed the Ender's Shadow series as much.
Another one of his books I highly recommend is Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus.
Another one of his books I highly recommend is Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus.
Even still, his politics come of pretty heavy handed and obvious when you read them. I've just learned to shrug it off and enjoy the stories.
It wasn't confusing. I've read it a couple of times... and also listened to them on audiobook also... the first time... when you find out the government was deceiving ender... I also thought it was a good advertisement against genetic engineering... cause ender was a genetically developed individual conceived in a society that tells you who to mate with and how many children to have all according to a pattern of what they need the individual to do.
His justification... for what... none grownups ever told him that he hurt any of the people he harmed... his whole life he thought he was playing a game... he lived in a bubble... till the queen poped that bubble and he found out he was a pawn and was used for genocide. he was 12 and had a childs emotions... he didn't have a adults emotional wall till much much later... ender felt justified cause he thought that he could press the reset button all the dead would come back. which is the curve of the book...
it's gonna be a interesting movie... I hope they do it right.
it wasn't child abuse... in the pedo sense... it was psychological abuse... but... this was a society where you got permits to have children... you were told who to marry because of the potential of the genetic breeding... this was a socity that was trying to breed a general... someone to win their war... they created ender... third try ya know... they created him to fight bugs... and they didn't care what child abuse they had to put him thru to create that general...
gotta love a society like that.
gotta love a society like that.
I'm sure I've seen Card express pro-immigration sentiments, as well as love for the Brazilian culture where once served as missionary. Also, his books have plenty of non-Americans portrayed as heroes. I strongly disagree with some of Card's opinions, but may I ask what you are referring to when you say he is xenophobic?
I really liked Ender's Game and was willing to read more OSC until I found his blog...
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