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Earth as Naked Paradise

That's what I thought.

Still, either way, I do not at all believe they meant for MU Georgiou's bisexuality to be a "sign" of her evilness. It's was simply meant to be her sexual preference.

In the tie-in books, written with consultation from the creators if not really canon, Georgiou had an ex-husband, who was Greek. Presumably the mirror Georgiou married the same man (err... his counterpart). That's all we know about her love life.
 
No they are different species of genital bulging

Moose are from the family cervidae
Camel are from the family camelidae
I don't know if I understand this.

I thought 'camel toe' and 'moose knuckle' were both terms used to describe the visual effect produced by clothing worn too tightly against the labia.
 
I don't know if I understand this.

I thought 'camel toe' and 'moose knuckle' were both terms used to describe the visual effect produced by clothing worn too tightly against the labia.

The moose knuckle, is I believe, and may be mistaken, caused by a penis rather than labia. Though biology euphemism textbooks may have been updated since I was at school.
 
I think that the point is that Star Trek constantly uses the trope of portraying Mirror Universe characters who are evil also as bisexual. It plays into the larger anti-gay agenda that the series has always seemed to have, which culminated most recently with the scripting of a very unfortunate thing happening to one of the gay leads on Discovery this season.

Landry also had a catastrophic plot armour failure. And Prime Georgiou.
 
The moose knuckle, is I believe, and may be mistaken, caused by a penis rather than labia. Though biology euphemism textbooks may have been updated since I was at school.
I thought that a Moose Knuckle was when a guy hikes his pants up so far it shows his "Family Jewels" as a split bulge... similar to how a lady's would look as a Camel Toe.
:shrug:
 
I thought that a Moose Knuckle was when a guy hikes his pants up so far it shows his "Family Jewels" as a split bulge... similar to how a lady's would look as a Camel Toe.
:shrug:

Penis. Nutsack. I have lived in this century long enough to know that getting too specific about these things can be like something from Darmok.
I think you may be right, incidentally.
 
The moose knuckle, is I believe, and may be mistaken, caused by a penis rather than labia. Though biology euphemism textbooks may have been updated since I was at school.
Ohhhh, gotcha. Ok. That makes a certain amount of sense. Thanks for this clarification!

this is beginning to qualify as the oddest thread I have ever read on here.
I can link you some gems. Mostly mine.
 
I don't know how I feel about the nudist future TBH. But I do know I like the daring of it. Most depictions of the Federation proper are just too prosaic. They won't be the future in 100 years, let alone 3 or 4.
 
The point is that bisexuality/overt sexuality is used as a short hand by the writers for identifying the character as 'morally loose'. I don't really care about 'in universe' explanations, It's a bad trope that plays into a lot of negative stereotypes of non-straight people.

Emperor Georgiou was certainly "morally loose" in very explicit ways, not limited to sexual ones. But, say, Mirror Ezri didn't appear to be.

Bisexuality is just a shooting-fish-in-a-barrel target for this whole "sexual minorities are promiscuous and therefore morally loose in general" trope because the very term establishes that the person absolutely must have at least two partners at all times in order to meet the "happily going steady" standards of decent folks... :devil:

Of course, this never happens in the Mirror Universe: none of these "supposedly bisexual" folks appear particularly polyamorous or anything. It's one steady partner at a time, except for the big bosses Georgiou and Kira who'd automatically be depicted with multiple partners even if pronouncedly heterosexual, for that classic crime boss effect.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Interesting turn of phrase, though, "Naked Paradise". Kinda implies that a society like this is supposed to be better, that people who walk around naked are better (because they're "more evolved"), etc. That's an attitude I can do without, really...

Oh well. As long as NOT being naked is still an option, guess it ain't that bad. :shrug:
 
Interesting turn of phrase, though, "Naked Paradise". Kinda implies that a society like this is supposed to be better, that people who walk around naked are better (because they're "more evolved"), etc. That's an attitude I can do without, really...

Oh well. As long as NOT being naked is still an option, guess it ain't that bad. :shrug:
Given that the network nixed the actual nudity, it appears that the canon version of 24th-century Earth is now "nut-smashing and cameltoe-bearing loincloth paradise." So, technically, being not naked is indeed still an option
 
the clothes distract from the constant high pitched whistling sounds of 24th century human farts
 
Emperor Georgiou was certainly "morally loose" in very explicit ways, not limited to sexual ones. But, say, Mirror Ezri didn't appear to be.

Bisexuality is just a shooting-fish-in-a-barrel target for this whole "sexual minorities are promiscuous and therefore morally loose in general" trope because the very term establishes that the person absolutely must have at least two partners at all times in order to meet the "happily going steady" standards of decent folks... :devil:

Of course, this never happens in the Mirror Universe: none of these "supposedly bisexual" folks appear particularly polyamorous or anything. It's one steady partner at a time, except for the big bosses Georgiou and Kira who'd automatically be depicted with multiple partners even if pronouncedly heterosexual, for that classic crime boss effect.

Timo Saloniemi
Historically speaking, few kings or emperors were completely monogamous with their "official" spouse.
 
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