Earth as Naked Paradise
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I seriously misread this as "or a quick zoom through CGI parts." I was prepared to offer up the prosthetic Klingon boobs scene as evidence that parts have already been shown on Discovery, hahahaha.
I think Gene managed to squeeze more than a bit of his "Dirty Old Man" Syndrome into at least one episode of TNG...
Season 1 - Episode 8 ... "JUSTICE"
The folks on that planet were depicted about as "naked" and "hedonistic" as the censors of the '80's & '90's would allow.
Season 1 - Episode 8 ... "JUSTICE"
The folks on that planet were depicted about as "naked" and "hedonistic" as the censors of the '80's & '90's would allow.
Starfleet officers expressed trepidation about going to Betazoid weddings.
IIRC, one of Roddenberry's ideas was that Starfleet people were more conservative and old-fashioned, and even "less evolved," in comparison to way that human society was developing. So maybe human civilians would have been perfectly fine with being at a Betazoid wedding in the traditional state of undress.
Kor
IIRC, one of Roddenberry's ideas was that Starfleet people were more conservative and old-fashioned, and even "less evolved," in comparison to way that human society was developing. So maybe human civilians would have been perfectly fine with being at a Betazoid wedding in the traditional state of undress.
Kor
GR's plotpint could be WW3 was so devastating the only survivors were all humans living on nudist campsites so by the time of TOS Earth is populated by their descendents.
Well, mirror Georgiou is clearly EVIIIILLL because she's *shock horror* bisexual, so yep, really looks like star trek's moved on from those 90s TV attitudes...
Is she? I guess I missed something.
That wasn't even his dirtiest moment.I think Gene managed to squeeze more than a bit of his "Dirty Old Man" Syndrome into at least one episode of TNG...
Season 1 - Episode 8 ... "JUSTICE"
The folks on that planet were depicted about as "naked" and "hedonistic" as the censors of the '80's & '90's would allow.
There's an unfilmed script written by Roddenberry, titled 'The God Thing,' which features a metal thong-clad Kirk engaged in nude oil wrestling with three women. In the script, Gene details how the battle is giving Kirk a painful erection.
One wonders how Gene intended to depict this.
Oh, that's just Trek continuity at its best, nicely and clinically independent of the fashions of the airdate. 
Seriously, forks. If anything, DSC deliberately and explicitly reinforces the idea that the Mirror Universe is not just our universe with evil people, but a place where things are fundamentally different. The quality of light is one thing. The sexuality of people would appear to be another. Nobody in-universe (in-Mirror-Universe, that is) seems to associate bisexuality with evil! Which we can speculate is simply because it is more common in Homo sapiens in that universe than in ours (quite regardless of whether we think it's up to genetics or social norms or freedom of choice or whatever). And the tyrants cater for the masses, in their universe just as in ours, and on this issue among others.
Timo Saloniemi
Seriously, forks. If anything, DSC deliberately and explicitly reinforces the idea that the Mirror Universe is not just our universe with evil people, but a place where things are fundamentally different. The quality of light is one thing. The sexuality of people would appear to be another. Nobody in-universe (in-Mirror-Universe, that is) seems to associate bisexuality with evil! Which we can speculate is simply because it is more common in Homo sapiens in that universe than in ours (quite regardless of whether we think it's up to genetics or social norms or freedom of choice or whatever). And the tyrants cater for the masses, in their universe just as in ours, and on this issue among others.
Timo Saloniemi
Do we know whether or not prime Georgiou is bisexual? If she is, then her bisexuality doesn't seem to have been a specific aspect of "evil mirror Georgiou".
And even if Prime Georgious wasn't bisexual, MU Georgiou's sexuality is not necessarily meant to be an evil aspect of the character.
I think that the point is that Star Trek constantly uses the trope of portraying Mirror Universe characters who are evil also as bisexual. It plays into the larger anti-gay agenda that the series has always seemed to have, which culminated most recently with the scripting of a very unfortunate thing happening to one of the gay leads on Discovery this season.
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The point is that bisexuality/overt sexuality is used as a short hand by the writers for identifying the character as 'morally loose'. I don't really care about 'in universe' explanations, It's a bad trope that plays into a lot of negative stereotypes of non-straight people.
No. Her sexuality is a complete unknown.
Guy next to Riker in the mankini ha ha ha ha and just a touch of ew...
Now just imagine - Crotch Smash there on the left, and Giant Camel Toe on the right were how Gene envisioned everybody dressing when they got back to Earth for a vacation, ideally minus the fabric.
Picard, Worf, and Data included.
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My imagination is rocking in a corner somewhere
That's what I thought.
Still, either way, I do not at all believe they meant for MU Georgiou's bisexuality to be a "sign" of her evilness. It's was simply meant to be her sexual preference.
Hmmm....Going by your screen name (on reddit we would call that Beetlejuicing), I think you mean "moose knuckle" and not "camel toe".