I recall Wesley being well written as a young person and accepted by the fan base...They're troping pretty hard. Some archetypes are eternal
Early Criticism: What’s Unfounded and What Isn’t
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Fan fave from day one.I recall Wesley being well written as a young person and accepted by the fan base...
The set design is out of this world, no pun intended, but I am wondering when will we get a ship-centric story that shows off the ship exterior more?
They showed it's abilities in the pilot and then like.. nothing?
They showed it's abilities in the pilot and then like.. nothing?
Episode 4 had quite a bitThe set design is out of this world, no pun intended, but I am wondering when will we get a ship-centric story that shows off the ship exterior more?
They showed it's abilities in the pilot and then like.. nothing?
I feel left out, and wounded, because I'm a crappy moderator too.Oh, you wound me! How will I ever be able to handle the fact that you consider me a “crappy moderator”?
That's how it is when I go outside and do yard work, I miss out.
That's the beginnings of FOMO right there.I feel left out, and wounded, because I'm a crappy moderator too.
That's how it is when I go outside and do yard work, I miss out.
It's not about the ship.The set design is out of this world, no pun intended, but I am wondering when will we get a ship-centric story that shows off the ship exterior more?
They showed it's abilities in the pilot and then like.. nothing?
Thankfully.
I feel left out, and wounded, because I'm a crappy moderator too.
That's how it is when I go outside and do yard work, I miss out.
I just laugh because there is a video game about lawn mowing which is usually what I am avoiding by playing video games.
With all due respect, it's not necessary to actually watch the series or an episode to dismiss it. This is the whole point of critique and critical reviews...to tell people to check it out or steer clear, and ultimately people can choose to listen or not.
If I read or watch a lot of analytical reviews about a particular product that are consistently bad, I'm not going to go out and buy that product. And If some one says "Well you don't own it, how can you say it's bad?" That's a poor argument..and absurd. whereas if the reviews are fairly consistent, that will guide my decision. I'm not going to spend my money on that product and then say "You know what? this product IS bad!"
so long as those critiques are justified...If someone did a product review and spent the whole time trashing the company that makes it, that might jade my perspective. Whereas if someone (or many people) criticize the merits of a particular show/series/product, THAT carries weight.
great example of this is Amazon reviews...you see a few 1 star reviews that say things like: "product arrived broken, don't buy!" or "They said it would arrive in two days and it took a week..1 star!"
HUH???? you're not telling me anything about the product itself!!!!
It falls on the person absorbing these reviews to be judicious and analyze the information.
And I don't subscribe to the notion that you have to use the most recent vernacular of gen-z or anyone else to lure them in. A great example of this was Top Gun:Maverick, which was a hit amongst many demographics, when I saw it, people in the theater were teens, kids, my age , much older, and everyone loved it.
They didn't try to tailor it to a particular demographic. Tom Cruise and Jennifer Connolley weren't acting like giggling teens who were in love. They portrayed a mature romance that two people with life experience would have, and the audience bought it, all generations.
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how many others on the show were Wesley's age? Wesley's character served a purpose, and he was a support character (at first), Picard and Riker were the driving force.I recall Wesley being well written as a young person and accepted by the fan base...
Cool. I don't think that’s what I said, though. Everyone is free to dismiss whatever they want, as far as I’m concerned. But saying something is “brain dead type of television” is not merely not watching it because you expect to not find it to your liking, it’s an active verdict about something that, to me, felt like someone making it without having watched it. I wouldn’t dream of telling anyone they need to watch something only to make sure their suspicion that they don’t like it is accurate. I don’t watch and don’t like lots of things. I have never watched even a single full episode of either Stargate SG-1 or The Walking Dead, for example, as from all bits and pieces I’ve seen I don’t think they would be something I enjoy. But I wouldn’t even think of going around making definitive statements about how intelligent the writing is on those shows. How could I have possibly reached that verdict without having watched it?
But that’s neither here nor there, since the poster in question has already clarified that they did indeed watch the show. Doesn’t mean I agree that their verdict about it is accurate, but at least they’ve come to it on their own actually watching the thing. Plus, we already agreed to drop the issue.
But at that point you yourself do not have an opinion and regurgitating the opinions of others as if they are your own is unjustified.
I myself care nothing for reviews but if trailers and posters and all the marketing for a product is bad that may well drive me to avoid it but I can't then say it's bad and cite reasons that only someone watching it would know in an attempt to pass it off as if I am watching it just to bandwagon.
No it's really not, If the reviews in question consistently call out the same parameters or make the same consistent synopses.
again go back to the product example, like say an automobile...if several people say "This car is bad, because of A,B,C.." I don't NEED my "own" opinion on the matter, I will adhere to the reviews and advice of those that have experienced it....not gonna go buy that car just to see if it really IS that bad (extreme example, but same concept)
In that case, to stay with the actual thing this was originally about, I would want to see the evidence that there’s any critical consensus about the show Dawson’s Creek being considered “brain dead television”. It’s my understanding that the show was a massive success, cultural phenomenon and cult classic that influenced TV that came after it and launched several careers of both actors and writers. Doesn’t mean anyone has to like it, of course, but let’s not act like the main thing you would hear about the show is how supposedly bad it is.
There's a massive difference between "I don't want to buy/watch because I've been told the product/show is rubbish (from reviews or friends, it doesn't matter)", and "I don't want to buy/watch because the product/show is rubbish" - the latter implies personal opinion based upon experience, the former says your opinion is based on the trusted opinion of another.
as long at those reviews/reviewers are respected and knowledged, back in the 80s Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert were the go to reviewers of movies and they were spot on, the majority of the tim..If they said a movie was bad, 9/10 it was...based on the merits and artistry of the film.
And who would dislike something based on no knowledge of it? that seems silly.
You seem to be making our point for us? You aren't forming your own opinion, you are taking onboard Siskel and Ebert giving a movie two thumbs up or not. You can't say the movie is bad - you can say S&E said it was bad and thats why you're not watching it.
The point is young people will still be growing and making mistakes so if young people making mistakes is not preferred entertainment then it probably isn't the show for you.
Back on topic;
Legitimate criticism: The Jem'Hadar, despite appearing male, were actually sexless and incapable of natural reproduction. Also, they didn't bleed white.
Unfounded criticism: Calling Lura Thok a 'diversity hire,' and 'obese.'
Legitimate criticism: The Jem'Hadar, despite appearing male, were actually sexless and incapable of natural reproduction. Also, they didn't bleed white.
Unfounded criticism: Calling Lura Thok a 'diversity hire,' and 'obese.'
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