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each season's WORST

While Move Along Home is pretty bad, I think there's a kitschy quality to it that saves it from being THE worst (and the allamarain song is kind of catchy in a nightmarish sort of way)

I also see Move Along Home as having some redeemable moments, whereas Q-Less was just incredibly dull outside of Sisko punching Q. They should have used that scene as the teaser at the beginning, then moved on to something else after the opening credits ;)

I'M NOT PICARD. THIS IS NOT TNG. GET OFF MY SHOW. (Your ladyfriend can stay.) Roll credits. *Insert worthwhile episode*
 
The auction was pretty cool though. Also, I loved how Q's and Vash's appearance made sense and Q wasn't just choosing another starfleet crew to annoy (like was the impression with VOY).
It was a little story with a rather unspectacular ending, but I still like it.

Also, like "Past Prologue" and "Vortex" it was one of those early episodes that managed to create a "wild west in space" atmosphere and making Vash even more of a "Space Indy".
Also cool: How Q creates the boxing ring, and Quark, Vash and the others don't go "hey wtf is going on here", but instead imediately become part of the situation that Q created.

Also, Q's and Miles little confrontation was hilarious.
"weren't you one of the little people?"
 
The auction was pretty cool though. Also, I loved how Q's and Vash's appearance made sense and Q wasn't just choosing another starfleet crew to annoy (like was the impression with VOY).
It was a little story with a rather unspectacular ending, but I still like it.

Also, like "Past Prologue" and "Vortex" it was one of those early episodes that managed to create a "wild west in space" atmosphere and making Vash even more of a "Space Indy".
Also cool: How Q creates the boxing ring, and Quark, Vash and the others don't go "hey wtf is going on here", but instead imediately become part of the situation that Q created.

Also, Q's and Miles little confrontation was hilarious.
"weren't you one of the little people?"

The auction didn't really make an impression on me, but I agree the boxing scene is fun.

To the extent that this episode had a purpose, it would seem to have been to underline the differences between the DS9 crew and the TNG crew but I don't think it succeeded in a meaningful way. The differences are already very clear by that point anyway, clearer in fact than they are in this episode because the DS9 cast is in the background.

The uniqueness of the DS9 crew was never in question and didn't need to be underlined in such an obvjous manner. What needed to be more clearly defined was DS9's identity as far as plot and storytelling was concerned (the show was still largely doing "TNG standing still" at this stage). However, unsurprisingly, having some TNG characters show up on the station didn't really help in this regard.

It was towards the end of the season in episodes like Progress, Duet and In the Hands of the Prophets that the show began to really find its own voice (to go along with its already unique cast of characters).
 
Didn't anybody else simply get a kick out of the novelty of Q being on DS9? I'm asking about both the first time you saw the episode as well as on subsequent viewings, knowing he never did and never will appear on it again. I know I'm biased because I loved the character so much, but surely I'm not the only one who thought, "holy shit!/YAY! it's Q!" when they revealed him right before the opening credits. Am I? :wtf:

That alone makes this not only one of the season 1 episodes I would never consider among its worst, but actually one of the ones I like best. But I understand my opinion is minority on this, because I just hate that season with a passion. I almost gave up on DS9 for good after it. There are like 5 episodes in the whole thing I like and this is one of them. I think most of them are boring, including the ones at the end, except "Duet", which is saved by the guest star's performance.

Both "Q-Less" and "Duet" are examples of season 1 episodes I remember mostly because I thought their guest stars were so memorable, compared to most of the season. In the majority of the episodes, with the main cast on its own, the writing was so weak and their characters were so underdeveloped at that point that I found everything just terrible or inoffensively forgettable, at best.
 
Yeah.
But I must say, at the time, after watching TNG for 5 years, the concept of "more TNG stuff, but with kickass FX, better aliens and a more detailed world" was enough to keep me watching with excitement.
"cool stuff in space", that's what it was right from the beginning.

As for worst first season ep., I can't decide. Sure the Allamaraine shit was embarrassing, but the episode as a whole wasn't that terrible.
"The Storyteller"'s A-Plot was gruesome, with a predictable plot, a Bajor that didn't feel "real", a missed chance. The B-Plot saves it however.

Actually, I thinkI would either choose "Battle Lines" or "Captive Pursuit".
I never understood the love for the latter. The story is basic, the Tosk (while having nice makeup) aren't really that interesting, and the whole O'Brien part isn't that good either n my opinion.

"If Wishes were Horses" was also rather superfluous.
 
While Move Along Home is pretty bad, I think there's a kitschy quality to it that saves it from being THE worst (and the allamarain song is kind of catchy in a nightmarish sort of way)...

As for my WORST episodes... welllll this took a lot of thought ;)

S1: Duet
S2: Necessary Evil (Someone turn on the lights!!!! The Jem Hadar is pretty bad too)
S3: The Die is Cast (Odo/Garak interrogation scenes were SOOOO badly acted!!!!!)
S4: The Visitor (needs more 'splosions. and mysterious future guy time travellers and a plot that sends Sisko back to 1996! It'll be so funny seeing Sisko trying to learn how to drive a car! LOL!)
S5: Call to Arms (OMGZZZ There's war in Star Trek! GENE WOULD SOOOO ANGRY!!!!)
S6: In the Pale Moonlight (Sisko = Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
S7: The Changing Face of Evil (Damar's speech = BOOOOOORRRING. Why can't Janeway just fly in and destroy the Dominion herself?????)
Nah, I think you're wrong about the last one. The worst episode of season 7 is clearly either Treachery, Faith and the Great River (OMG RELIGION in Trek! And it's even not treated as bad, stupid and evil! :scream:), Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges (OMG Starfleet has a dark side! Gene would be pissed :eek:) and Tacking into the Wind (what's up with all that CONFLICT? That's just a way to create cheap melodrama by having characters act like pissed off teenagers :shifty:)!

;)
 
I liked 'Treachery, Faith and The Great River' as it seemed a lift of the early MASH episode 'To Market, To Market'--which also involved a CO's desk being traded off--just as the one with Jake, Nog and the baseball card reminded me of 'For Want Of A Boot' and a later Potter-era ep 'The Price Of Tomato Juice'.
Hard for me to nail down some seasons, but for S2? Paradise. I can handle the Stockholm Syndrome ending, and the unrepentant, unshaken fanatic. But the idea that this ep puts fwd (IMHO) that Alixius was somehow right to do what she did? Repulsive. Also, the tech they assail, if used properly, actually would make a mostly non-tech life more feasible. Don't use it so you can all have ice cream every night, but if all efforts to gather water have failed--maybe then.
 
'The Visitor' is one episode I find overrated. (I believe it's a 4th season episode).

Tony Todd doesn't strike me as a older Jake, for one. Two, the age makeup on many of the characters isn't 'all that'... (And, I didn't see what I was supposed to go bat-crazy about, after watching the episode).
 
S1 - Move along Home
S2 - Melora
S3 - Meridian
S4 - The Muse
S5 - Let He Who Is Without Sin
S6 - Profit & Lace
S7 - The Emporer's New Cloak
 
S1 - Q-Less
S2 - Second Sight
S3 - Fascination
S4 - The Muse
S5 - Let He Who Is Without Sin...
S6 - Profit and Lace
S7 - The Emperor's New Cloak
 
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