DW (almost) becomes afternoon show on BBC

[Tomalak]

They've shuffled Doctor Who around for years, and keep doing it because it has no real effect on the ratings. What it does do is give Over the Rainbow a strong lead-in and allows them to keep viewers who might otherwise switch over to ITV.

I really don't see the problem here.

 

[Australis]

I would have thought Over The Rainbow would have been better in the 6pm slot.

 

[Jax]

^ Later in the show when they wittle down the number of idiots in the show they should do that so Doctor Who can have the 7pm slot. ITV will move BGT out of Who's way I have no doubt though what time does that show start anyway ?

 

[Sci]

I have to admit that the idea of a British TV series about British actors being cast in a British production of a story and characters so quintessentially American as The Wizard of Oz gives me some cognitive dissonance. I'm not saying that there's any reason Britons couldn't do just as well as Americans -- the idea is just not something I'd ever thought of, before. I suppose it's really no different than casting Americans in a production of Peter Pan, though.

Is The Wizard of Oz as major a part of children's culture in Britain as it is in America?

 

[Mr Awe]

6pm is NOT an afternoon slot, not even "virtually". It's an early evening spot. I do agree that the changing times would be annoying but the show seems to be doing fine in the UK regardless.

Mr Awe

 

[Starkers]

I have to admit that the idea of a British TV series about British actors being cast in a British production of a story and characters so quintessentially American as The Wizard of Oz gives me some cognitive dissonance. I'm not saying that there's any reason Britons couldn't do just as well as Americans -- the idea is just not something I'd ever thought of, before. I suppose it's really no different than casting Americans in a production of Peter Pan, though.

Is The Wizard of Oz as major a part of children's culture in Britain as it is in America?

I'd say so, although I don't know how major a part of American culture it is. Certainly the film was a staple on the tv while I was growing up. And obviously this is a West End Musical not a play. We do West Side Story and the like so why not The Wizard of Oz?

 

[VDCNI]

^ Later in the show when they wittle down the number of idiots in the show they should do that so Doctor Who can have the 7pm slot. ITV will move BGT out of Who's way I have no doubt though what time does that show start anyway ?

They didn't in season 4 and one of the Moffat episodes took a real hammering.

They can't move the England games either.

 

[Sci]

I have to admit that the idea of a British TV series about British actors being cast in a British production of a story and characters so quintessentially American as The Wizard of Oz gives me some cognitive dissonance. I'm not saying that there's any reason Britons couldn't do just as well as Americans -- the idea is just not something I'd ever thought of, before. I suppose it's really no different than casting Americans in a production of Peter Pan, though.

Is The Wizard of Oz as major a part of children's culture in Britain as it is in America?

I'd say so, although I don't know how major a part of American culture it is.

It's pervasive. The 1939 movie is seen by the vast majority of children raised in the United States. Almost every American child has seen either that film or read or been read the original book for the last hundred years, really. It's a huge part of the fabric of American culture in that regard.

Certainly the film was a staple on the tv while I was growing up. And obviously this is a West End Musical not a play. We do West Side Story and the like so why not The Wizard of Oz?

Well, it's a bit different insofar as, West Side Story may be a classic, but it's not something that everyone sees in childhood. The Wizard of Oz is right up there with traditional fairy tales, really.

And, yeah, I'm not saying that Britons can't do the story the same justice that an American cast can. I'm just saying, it's such a defining aspect of American culture that I'm a little surprised it even appeals to non-Americans. I suppose there are plenty of Britons who feel the same way about Doctor Who, though!

 

[Rarewolf]

most have missed this 6pm thing, dont know how they plan to air Confidential at 18:45 on BBC 3 that night

I'd imagine it will be on at 7pm, thats when the channel starts for the day.

 

[wamdue]

most have missed this 6pm thing, dont know how they plan to air Confidential at 18:45 on BBC 3 that night

I'd imagine it will be on at 7pm, thats when the channel starts for the day.

well ye that seems logical, but that is not really the point, the point is you are meant to be able to watch Confidential straight after Doctor Who, that is what ive always done, having to wait 15 minutes seems strange.

 

[DimesDan]

most have missed this 6pm thing, dont know how they plan to air Confidential at 18:45 on BBC 3 that night

I'd imagine it will be on at 7pm, thats when the channel starts for the day.

well ye that seems logical, but that is not really the point, the point is you are meant to be able to watch Confidential straight after Doctor Who, that is what ive always done, having to wait 15 minutes seems strange.

It ain't the end of the world now is it if you have to wait a whole quarter of an hour between watching the programme and finding out how they made it.

 

[wamdue]

true, and I can do a review directly after the episode for a change.

 

[Ward Fowler]

^Besides, bad timeslots didn't kill NewsRadio. Phil Hartman's wife did that.

Ouch. Damn, I miss Phil.

 

[Starkers]

I have to admit that the idea of a British TV series about British actors being cast in a British production of a story and characters so quintessentially American as The Wizard of Oz gives me some cognitive dissonance. I'm not saying that there's any reason Britons couldn't do just as well as Americans -- the idea is just not something I'd ever thought of, before. I suppose it's really no different than casting Americans in a production of Peter Pan, though.

Is The Wizard of Oz as major a part of children's culture in Britain as it is in America?

I'd say so, although I don't know how major a part of American culture it is.

It's pervasive. The 1939 movie is seen by the vast majority of children raised in the United States. Almost every American child has seen either that film or read or been read the original book for the last hundred years, really. It's a huge part of the fabric of American culture in that regard.

Certainly the film was a staple on the tv while I was growing up. And obviously this is a West End Musical not a play. We do West Side Story and the like so why not The Wizard of Oz?

Well, it's a bit different insofar as, West Side Story may be a classic, but it's not something that everyone sees in childhood. The Wizard of Oz is right up there with traditional fairy tales, really.

And, yeah, I'm not saying that Britons can't do the story the same justice that an American cast can. I'm just saying, it's such a defining aspect of American culture that I'm a little surprised it even appeals to non-Americans. I suppose there are plenty of Britons who feel the same way about Doctor Who, though!

Yes but that'd be like saying Americans shouldn't do Dickens, and it appeals more for the fantastical nature of Oz, rather than the Kansas elements (which I imagine have a greater resonence for Americans.) Its a great story and a great film and I guess it translates well to the stage.

Re the OP, I guess the other thing to take into account re Who moving rather than the Rainbow show is this, us on this board aside, there isn't the same immeidacy for people to watch Who, you can catch it later or on iplayer, whatever, but if you miss a show like Rainbow next thing you know you've missed the voting, missed the followup show...I'm not saying its a perfect situation but I can se the logic.

 

[The]

great now I have to convince Mrs Demonland to stay in on Saturday night in London to allow me to watch a "kids" show.

Well, if not, I'd say that's grounds for divorce...

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

I have to admit that the idea of a British TV series about British actors being cast in a British production of a story and characters so quintessentially American as The Wizard of Oz gives me some cognitive dissonance. I'm not saying that there's any reason Britons couldn't do just as well as Americans -- the idea is just not something I'd ever thought of, before. I suppose it's really no different than casting Americans in a production of Peter Pan, though.

Is The Wizard of Oz as major a part of children's culture in Britain as it is in America?

I'd say so, although I don't know how major a part of American culture it is.

It's pervasive. The 1939 movie is seen by the vast majority of children raised in the United States. Almost every American child has seen either that film or read or been read the original book for the last hundred years, really. It's a huge part of the fabric of American culture in that regard.

Certainly the film was a staple on the tv while I was growing up. And obviously this is a West End Musical not a play. We do West Side Story and the like so why not The Wizard of Oz?

Well, it's a bit different insofar as, West Side Story may be a classic, but it's not something that everyone sees in childhood. The Wizard of Oz is right up there with traditional fairy tales, really.

And, yeah, I'm not saying that Britons can't do the story the same justice that an American cast can. I'm just saying, it's such a defining aspect of American culture that I'm a little surprised it even appeals to non-Americans. I suppose there are plenty of Britons who feel the same way about Doctor Who, though!

Plus, British actors attempting Kansas accents can't be pleasant.

 

[Sci]

I'd say so, although I don't know how major a part of American culture it is.

It's pervasive. The 1939 movie is seen by the vast majority of children raised in the United States. Almost every American child has seen either that film or read or been read the original book for the last hundred years, really. It's a huge part of the fabric of American culture in that regard.

Certainly the film was a staple on the tv while I was growing up. And obviously this is a West End Musical not a play. We do West Side Story and the like so why not The Wizard of Oz?

Well, it's a bit different insofar as, West Side Story may be a classic, but it's not something that everyone sees in childhood. The Wizard of Oz is right up there with traditional fairy tales, really.

And, yeah, I'm not saying that Britons can't do the story the same justice that an American cast can. I'm just saying, it's such a defining aspect of American culture that I'm a little surprised it even appeals to non-Americans. I suppose there are plenty of Britons who feel the same way about Doctor Who, though!

Plus, British actors attempting Kansas accents can't be pleasant.

To be fair, it's not like all the actors in the 1939 film were going for Kansas accents, either -- especially the one with a Boston accent!

(And, really, I'm not even sure what a "Kansas accent" would have sounded like in the late 1800s/early 1900s (whenever Wizard of Oz takes place) would even have sounded like.)

Having said that...

Having listened to numerous British actors' attempts at an American Southern accent in the Whistle Down the Wind Original Cast Recording, I'm a bit skeptical of Andrew Lloyd Webber's actors' abilities to replicate American accents adequately!

 

[Captain Fine]

It's pervasive. The 1939 movie is seen by the vast majority of children raised in the United States. Almost every American child has seen either that film or read or been read the original book for the last hundred years, really. It's a huge part of the fabric of American culture in that regard.



Well, it's a bit different insofar as, West Side Story may be a classic, but it's not something that everyone sees in childhood. The Wizard of Oz is right up there with traditional fairy tales, really.

And, yeah, I'm not saying that Britons can't do the story the same justice that an American cast can. I'm just saying, it's such a defining aspect of American culture that I'm a little surprised it even appeals to non-Americans. I suppose there are plenty of Britons who feel the same way about Doctor Who, though!

Plus, British actors attempting Kansas accents can't be pleasant.

To be fair, it's not like all the actors in the 1939 film were going for Kansas accents, either -- especially the one with a Boston accent!

(And, really, I'm not even sure what a "Kansas accent" would have sounded like in the late 1800s/early 1900s (whenever Wizard of Oz takes place) would even have sounded like.)

Having said that...

Having listened to numerous British actors' attempts at an American Southern accent in the Whistle Down the Wind Original Cast Recording, I'm a bit skeptical of Andrew Lloyd Webber's actors' abilities to replicate American accents adequately!

I can only imagine what Brits think of Americans attempts at British accents... (e.g. Madonna, ew).

 

[Andrew_Kearley]

well ye that seems logical, but that is not really the point, the point is you are meant to be able to watch Confidential straight after Doctor Who, that is what ive always done, having to wait 15 minutes seems strange.

The upside is: they can't start Confidential before the episode has actually finished, which they have done on a number of occasions before now.

 

[Rarewolf]

There's been at least a 5 minute wait before. I used to be terriblely bothered when it started early, but am more relaxed now I have HD as well. As it is DWC has to wait till later on in the evening on HD