It doesn't need to be Erasmus, or Omnius. It could also be the Ixians. We know that they, like Richese, were famous for skirting the edges of what was permissible Tech. And the Ixians were also noted for being not exactly friendly to the Imperium. Using forbidden machines to create a virus in order to destabilize the Imperium would be right up their alley...
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She was meant to replace Ynez, but that was when they were leaving Kieran there. The idea was that nobody would realize the princess was in on the breakout and nobody would be looking for her, only for Valya.
Once Kieran was also breaking out there was no point in leaving a replacement Ynez behind, because nobody is that stupid. Who breaks out the Mother Superior and the Atreides swordmaster but leaves the rebel princess behind? Everybody with half a brain would see through that.
So, because their plan was already shot to hell by Ynez refusing to leave her boyfriend behind, Theodosia improvised to by them time. It was the best she could do with resources on hand.
Once Kieran was also breaking out there was no point in leaving a replacement Ynez behind, because nobody is that stupid. Who breaks out the Mother Superior and the Atreides swordmaster but leaves the rebel princess behind? Everybody with half a brain would see through that.
So, because their plan was already shot to hell by Ynez refusing to leave her boyfriend behind, Theodosia improvised to by them time. It was the best she could do with resources on hand.
Me too. What's the Empress' background? Could she be from Ix?
I don't think so. She's a rabid Butlerian, so not even remotely Ixian...
I kind of blanked her background.
I think all we've had was that she is a Butlerian (ironically more so than her husband, a member of House Butler), they cited her noble house at one point (House Arat?), and her marriage brought in the non-aligned worlds to the Imperium
Damn, that was bad.
When i saw the run time of 1.2 hours i groaned ( bad sign 1). Then halfway i started fast forwarding through most of the Javico scenes ( really bad sign 2). Nothing that happened in this season finale excited me even a little bit.
The Sisters are an infighting, internally treacherous group of women ( as in not just disagreeing on the course of action but actively infighting), the Emperor is a wet blanket, Desmond Hart is just going around killing people and i wonder what the whole point of the season was at all. Everybody is running around like headless chickens, doing something then pivoting to doing something else, nobody has a real plan much less Valya/The Sisters who seem completely inept at this point even though they like to think themselves as master manipulators ( which never really gets to be seen in the show).
The writing is a mess, the characters even more so and as much as i love Fimmel from his Vikings days he's a complete failure here.
So yeah, i'm out for season two. This was an endurance slog for me after the mediocre pilot episode with the hopes it would get better and it only got worse. Too bad, i had hopes they would pull off something good worthy of the universe but the producers ain't Villeneuve or Frank Herbert, that much was evident.
When i saw the run time of 1.2 hours i groaned ( bad sign 1). Then halfway i started fast forwarding through most of the Javico scenes ( really bad sign 2). Nothing that happened in this season finale excited me even a little bit.
The Sisters are an infighting, internally treacherous group of women ( as in not just disagreeing on the course of action but actively infighting), the Emperor is a wet blanket, Desmond Hart is just going around killing people and i wonder what the whole point of the season was at all. Everybody is running around like headless chickens, doing something then pivoting to doing something else, nobody has a real plan much less Valya/The Sisters who seem completely inept at this point even though they like to think themselves as master manipulators ( which never really gets to be seen in the show).
The writing is a mess, the characters even more so and as much as i love Fimmel from his Vikings days he's a complete failure here.
So yeah, i'm out for season two. This was an endurance slog for me after the mediocre pilot episode with the hopes it would get better and it only got worse. Too bad, i had hopes they would pull off something good worthy of the universe but the producers ain't Villeneuve or Frank Herbert, that much was evident.
Deep cover?
At this point it's a possibility, there was definitely a vibe of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"
I can't get past how that highly important and secret piece of equipment could be accessed via crowbar.
Was that the last episode? Just started getting interesting.
I still haven't gotten over the switchblades.
Sometimes simplicity wins out.
I love this show. (I know a lot of people don't. That's okay. I understand some of the complaints.) It's SO right up my alley because it has so many soap opera elements and tropes. It's I, Claudius set in the Dune universe, and since I have some rudimentary knowledge of what's going on in that universe it's the perfect show for me. And the presence of Javicco Corrino doesn't hurt either. I can't wait for the BluRays in April, I hope they'll put a decent amount of bonus and behind the scenes stuff on them.
Even though my favorite character most likely won't be in season 2 (sigh) I'll still keep track of this show. It doesn't happen very often that a 'modern' show manages to capture me, I prefer re-watching old shows over and over again these days, but this one sure managed. I'm glad they'll be getting another season. I hope they'll be able to flesh things out a bit more, something they couldn't do in the first season for a number of reasons.
Even though my favorite character most likely won't be in season 2 (sigh) I'll still keep track of this show. It doesn't happen very often that a 'modern' show manages to capture me, I prefer re-watching old shows over and over again these days, but this one sure managed. I'm glad they'll be getting another season. I hope they'll be able to flesh things out a bit more, something they couldn't do in the first season for a number of reasons.
Has anyone bought the show on Blu-Ray? It's just (finally) been released. I'm a little miffed about the lack of new special features (most of them are already on Youtube), but otherwise I can't complain. I mean these days you have to be glad when a show gets a physical media release in the first place.
Also, the soundtrack will be released on vinyl soon (delivery date for me is Monday next week). I hardly ever pay attention to music on a show but this one is different.
Oh and a friend of mine drew a wonderful Javicco portrait for my birthday, I figured I'd share this here as a small bonus, too. I know people here don't really seem to care much for the show but hey.Gotta hold up the Corrino banner.
(art by AnnaUsagi2/Instagram)
Also, the soundtrack will be released on vinyl soon (delivery date for me is Monday next week). I hardly ever pay attention to music on a show but this one is different.
Oh and a friend of mine drew a wonderful Javicco portrait for my birthday, I figured I'd share this here as a small bonus, too. I know people here don't really seem to care much for the show but hey.
Yeah, I got the Blu-ray, in fact that's how I watched the show. I don't subscribe to Crave (the Canadian streaming service which carries most Max shows) since they don't have very many shows I'm interested in, the few that I do have an interest in are Max shows and Max does usually put their shows on physical media within a reasonable timeframe, I just wait for that. And in this case, I'm enough of a Dune completist that I would have bought this on Blu-ray anyway, making it less of a priority to sign up for Crave just to watch this and then wait for The Last of Us.
Anyway, my feelings on this show echo that of many in this thread that while it is a well put together show with excellent production values and an amazing cast, the show seems to lack a bit of soul to it. It's entertaining enough to hold my attention, but it doesn't really grab me enough to consider it Must Watch television. The first half of the season was the much better half, with the third episode, the flashback about Valya and Tula in their youth being a really good episode and a part of me thought they could probably have expanded that storyline out to an entire season and have a better show. The second half of the season did suffer from spinning its gears, though the finale was certainly an engaging enough ending.
Anyway, my feelings on this show echo that of many in this thread that while it is a well put together show with excellent production values and an amazing cast, the show seems to lack a bit of soul to it. It's entertaining enough to hold my attention, but it doesn't really grab me enough to consider it Must Watch television. The first half of the season was the much better half, with the third episode, the flashback about Valya and Tula in their youth being a really good episode and a part of me thought they could probably have expanded that storyline out to an entire season and have a better show. The second half of the season did suffer from spinning its gears, though the finale was certainly an engaging enough ending.
It's funny how the third episode was the only one I didn't rate 10/10, haha. (No Javicco in it. Hey. I'm biased. I know.) I normally would have waited for the BluRays as well but for this show I made a rare exception and watched it on Amazon.
I'm really curious as to what they're going to do next, given how they've mentioned that there are more stories in the Sisterhood/Mentats/Navigators of Dune trilogy the show is based on and that the second season might dive into those a bit more... what I really hope is that they get more episodes to tell their story this time. I love the show to bits but I can definitely go along with the criticism about things taking wild turns sometimes because there just didn't seem to be enough time for the whole story.
And there's a lot of background knowledge things you have to be aware of in order to fully grasp what's going on. I've now read the trilogy the show is based on and there are quite a few plot points that only fully make sense if you're aware of what happened in the books. (Kinda mirrors the Lynch Dune movie here, that one I didn't understand at all until I read the book, lol.)
I'm going through the show again right now on BluRay and I'm still finding new little plot points to examine. It's what I really like about the show, it forces you to pay attention and yet there's still things you miss and only notice after a few re-watches.
I'm really curious as to what they're going to do next, given how they've mentioned that there are more stories in the Sisterhood/Mentats/Navigators of Dune trilogy the show is based on and that the second season might dive into those a bit more... what I really hope is that they get more episodes to tell their story this time. I love the show to bits but I can definitely go along with the criticism about things taking wild turns sometimes because there just didn't seem to be enough time for the whole story.
And there's a lot of background knowledge things you have to be aware of in order to fully grasp what's going on. I've now read the trilogy the show is based on and there are quite a few plot points that only fully make sense if you're aware of what happened in the books. (Kinda mirrors the Lynch Dune movie here, that one I didn't understand at all until I read the book, lol.)
I'm going through the show again right now on BluRay and I'm still finding new little plot points to examine. It's what I really like about the show, it forces you to pay attention and yet there's still things you miss and only notice after a few re-watches.
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