Spoilers Dune: Prophecy - Spoilers!
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From what I can tell, it doesn't actually indicate that Lila's mother was Dorotea, it indicates that Dorotea was Lila's grandmother - given the thirty year time jump, Dorotea would have been dead by the time that Lila would have to have been born.
Did not see the reveal about Sister Theodosia coming -
She's a Face Dancer?!??!
Hasn't been explicitly stated, but the Atreides massacre took place on Caladan, so I think it's safe to assume that is their core world (just as it will be in Paul's time).Might have missed but have there been mention of which planet House Atriedes rules?
It certainly appears that way. Rather strange, as I thought the people with those skills were the result of generations of experimentation by the Bene Tleilax, who themselves were an offshoot of Zensunni and Zensufi theologies.
Here we see a possible shared origin with the Bene Gesserit, unless the Tleilaxu already exist and predate the Sisterhood by some centuries.
According to the novels, the Tleilaxu were around since before the Butlerian Jihad, though back then they went by the name Tlulaxa.
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Unique powers is a stretch, he was made into a virus carrier apparently but who made him is still a mystery.
Damn this show is a mess - this late into the season we are introduced to another seemingly important character, the heir to the imperial throne's mother ( who's of course a Bene Gesserit). The Emperor's wife is apparently now starting an affair with Desmond, despite showing no interest in him like that.
Club hostess is of course an undercover Bene Gesserit and they couldn't even be bothered to call Desmond's elite unit Sardaukar ( they're namedropping everything else though).
I thought revealing Face Dancers last episode was the height of "shocker" reveals but this episode topped that easily.
I honestly can't find a single redeeming thing about this episode if i tried. Even Travis Fimmel is disappointing, the entire episode i was watching Ragnar Lothbrock, his character from Vikings ( exactly the same mannerisms and facial expressions, just different clothes). I can't say if it's the writing and direction or if Fimmel gave up and is just phoning it in. Then again George Lucas had a top level cast in Phantom Menace with McGregor, Portman and Neeson and managed to get their worst performances in their careers out of them.
So what was the big reveal Tula had when it was confirmed that Desmond was an Atreides and what's the significance of the AI also discovering Harkonnen genes ( was it? It was extremely confusing). Is this somehow to become the foundation of the Kwisatz Haderach program?
This show confuses and saddens me at the same time.
Constantine isn't the Heir to the Golden Lion Throne, Ynez is the Heir, which is why he's been left with no direction, and why the BG want him in command of the new Imperial Fleet.
I'm curious about Constantines maternal family, though.
And see above for my guesses on the implications for the reveal.
As of this episode i don't think the Emperor considers Ynez as the heir anymore. He's basically abandoned his actual wife for the BG and elevated his son to a powerful position even if he's unaware he's being controlled and directed by the BG.
Now his wife is starting to plot against him and at some point the BG will have to realize it's safer long term to be the power behind the throne. I don't know if that's something they keep for later seasons or not, provided the show does get a second season or will be able to close out its main story ( whatever that may be).
I have doubts the show will get a second season but it might be my personal bias.
Sardaukar don't exist in this time period. Indeed, they don't become a thing until after Salusa Secundus becomes a desolate wasteland and the Imperial Prison Planet, as surviving those conditions is how Sardaukar undergo their training.
I believe that what Tula discovered is that Desmond Hart is her son, the product of her liaison with the Atreides man she murdered (along with all his kinsmen) before she ran off and joined Valya in the Sisterhood. At least, that's what I came away with from that scene.
That was actually revealed a couple of episodes ago.
Desmond is her son. She got pregnant with Orry Atreides' son the night before she killed him. I don't know if they'll make explicit connections within the show, but Desmond is definitely supposed to remind the audience of that other Harkonnen-Atreides child from the films.
The two big reveals in the penultimate episode were really poor. The virus was lame and generic and the bad guy's motivation being mammy issues was just as bad.
Was liking the show up until then despite its flaws.
Was liking the show up until then despite its flaws.
And technically Lila has Atreides blood too, given that Mother Raquella was Vorian Atreides' granddaughter.
Interesting Finale
i) Javicco and Sister Francesca are dead, the Empress Consort has thrown her lot in with Desmond Hart and Princess Inez is on the Run.
Who gets the throne? Does Natalya try to hold it on behalf of her "kidnapped" daughter, or does Prince Constantine seize the throne (or get placed on it by the Empress) - and more to the point, if Theodosia was supposed to pretend to be Inez to cover up the Princess and Kieran's escape, why did she then pretend to be a "Not-Sardaukar" and attempt to kill Desmond instead. Was she in league with the true villains ...
ii) Is that Erasmus? And are the Mentats the Big Bads? Or is it Omnius?
iii) The timeline feels a little "off" - the time jump feels like it should have been more than thirty years to fit everything in. Desmond is only supposed to be about 29, but Kieran's father is (presumably) Albert Atreides, the kid who survives Tula's massacre. Or is Kieran significantly younger than Mason?
Who gets the throne? Does Natalya try to hold it on behalf of her "kidnapped" daughter, or does Prince Constantine seize the throne (or get placed on it by the Empress) - and more to the point, if Theodosia was supposed to pretend to be Inez to cover up the Princess and Kieran's escape, why did she then pretend to be a "Not-Sardaukar" and attempt to kill Desmond instead. Was she in league with the true villains ...
ii) Is that Erasmus? And are the Mentats the Big Bads? Or is it Omnius?
iii) The timeline feels a little "off" - the time jump feels like it should have been more than thirty years to fit everything in. Desmond is only supposed to be about 29, but Kieran's father is (presumably) Albert Atreides, the kid who survives Tula's massacre. Or is Kieran significantly younger than Mason?
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