Spoilers DSC: Dead Endless by Dave Galanter Review Thread

[Tuskin38]

I don't understand that at all.

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How could Ripper and animated Ephraim be the same creature? The one from DSC is large and violent and aggressive. The animated one is much smaller, cuter, and hardly aggressive at all (except when it takes a swing at Dot with a wrench).

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Ripper in DSC Season 1 was only acting in self defence. It's not normally violent. That's brought up in the show

 

[DaveGalanter]

About a third of the way through. Outside of...

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Having a tough time taking Ephraim seriously because all I see now is how he appeared in "Ephraim and Dot".

"Ephraim and Dot" was a cute cartoon, meant to be cute, and I think not meant to be necessarily literal: just a bit of fun.

 

[BuckBokaiLondonKings]

Just finished. I loved it. The Culmets scenes were so well written.

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I loved the AU and certainly wouldn’t mind hanging out in that clearing longer!

 

[GaryH]

Airiam

 

[GaryH]

I loved this book. Exactly what I wanted - a character based novel where we learned more about the non core characters like Airiam and Landry. Tied with Una’s for my fav Discovery book now. More, please.

 

[Blooded]

Arrived in the post, yesterday. Looking forward to getting to this one.

 

[BillJ]

Finished it. Really liked it for the most part. Graded it 'Above Average'.

Spoiler: Dead Endless

+The way the Ephraim/Stamets/Culber stuff was handled was genius.
+Enjoyed getting a look at some of the minor characters that the show has glossed over.
+For the first time, Discovery actually felt like a prequel to TOS.
-The book started to feel claustrophobic after a while with so much of it taking place on Discovery.
-Some sections meandered on for a bit too long.
-If I never hear/read "Benecia" again, it'll be too soon.

There were moments where "Captain Burnham" worked, others where it felt a bit forced.

 

[BillJ]

One more thought that I don't think needs a spoiler tag. I really appreciated how this book focused on the "Discovery universe'. Yeah there were nods to other Trek, but it kept its story focused on the elements and characters unique to the show.

 

[DaveGalanter]

One more thought that I don't think needs a spoiler tag. I really appreciated how this book focused on the "Discovery universe'. Yeah there were nods to other Trek, but it kept its story focused on the elements and characters unique to the show.

Well, in a sense it was a “bottle episode” but that’s partly because the events take place over a relatively short period of time.

 

[BillJ]

Well, in a sense it was a “bottle episode” but that’s partly because the events take place over a relatively short period of time.

I understand. At the same time, one of my big complaints about the show is that it seems to be more about other Trek than about itself. I appreciated a story that was about "Discovery". A story that was about the crew and technology that was introduced in the show.

 

[Markonian]

Love it!
Novels only seem to work with a crisis to solve but I appreciate that we have time to delve into characters and get a glimpse on their daily life. Like the mess hall conversations. Or Airiam & Landry.

Spoiler tag doesn’t work on my phone atm, so I’ll just say I’ll consider this novel an unofficial sequel to Star Trek: Myriad Universes (even gets name-dropped) because of certain elements.

Also, as a Star Trek Online player, I was pleased by the appearance of Deb Underwood.

The cross-referencing between different Discovery media is welcoming. I recognised the scene from the DSC Annual 2018 comic, including the reference to Rebholz, the Andorian Starfleet officer. All the little details lined up.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

This had me scratching my head up until around page 135 or so. Then the inconsistencies suddenly made sense.

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I don't think, outside of a short story or novella in a Myriad Universes book, I can recall ever reading a ST prose opus that started in a never-before-seen parallel universe. And until I got to around page 135 or so, I only dimly suspected that was what I was reading, mainly because I couldn't figure out a timeframe when Burnham was in command, Landry was still alive, and Culber was in the mycelial plane.

 

[BillJ]

This had me scratching my head up until around page 135 or so. Then the inconsistencies suddenly made sense.

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I don't think, outside of a short story or novella in a Myriad Universes book, I can recall ever reading a ST novel that started in a never-before-seen parallel universe. And until I got to around page 135 or so, I only dimly suspected that was what I was reading, mainly because I couldn't figure out a timeframe when Burnham was in command, Landry was still alive, and Culber was in the mycelial plane.

Yeah, it threw me for a bit trying to figure it out.

 

[Ronald Held]

Has the book been out long enough not to need to use spoiler tags? Moderators?

 

[David Weller]

Yeah, it threw me for a bit trying to figure it out.

Threw me too.

 

[hbquikcomjamesl]

Has the book been out long enough not to need to use spoiler tags? Moderators?

I still haven't quite finished it.

Spoiler: I'm only to the point where. . .

. . . Tilly and her new friends from another dimension are singing "Old MacDonald Had a Farm."

 

[trampledamage]

Has the book been out long enough not to need to use spoiler tags? Moderators?

This is a spoilers allowed thread, so none of you need to at any point. Anyone who posts in here before they've finished the book does so at their own risk. Obviously anyone can choose to use spoiler tags, but you don't need to.

 

[DaveGalanter]

Yeah, it threw me for a bit trying to figure it out.

There has been a bit of joy as people often began thinking “Galanter doesn’t know his stuff” and eventually thought “wait... when does this take place? What’s going on?” Until finally they see it and say “Ohhh!” But there ARE hints along the way.

 

[David Weller]

TBH I don’t think anything that happened in this book took place in the universe that we’ve seen on screen.

 

[DaveGalanter]

TBH I don’t think anything that happened in this book took place in the universe that we’ve seen on screen.

Last part of the epilogue did. But for the most part, only Culber and Ephraim are the characters you’ve seen on screen.