DS9 on blu ray?
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Yeah, I think DVD will outlive Blu Ray, since I don't see studio's going much for distributing movies on USB Key. But when I look at what Warner Brothers is doing here in Canada and the US (with, from what I can recall Warner Brothers being BBC's distributor here) with recent movies like Batman Vs. Superman where the digital download was released almost a month before the DVD/Blu-Ray, I can see studios sticking with DVD for physical, but Blu-Ray is really on its death-bed and DVD acting more like the CD, but for video.
But I know of a number of American shows that were shot and edited in HD, and have received either 1 or 2 HD releases, or no releases at all. The CSI franchise has only had 3 Blu Ray's released (including a remastered Season 1 of the original CSI), however every season has been released on DVD. Hell's Kitchen. while scheduled to get a Blu-Ray release for it's 5th and 6th seasons, those releases were cancelled due to "low HD quality video" even though the show had been shot and broadcast in HD; Season 14 was given a Blu-Ray release, but so far to date I haven't seen the Blu-Ray on store shelves, just the DVD version. You can even add Smallville Season 5 where the HD version was originally released on disc, but then discontinued (due to the discontinuation of the HD-DVD format), with no Blu-Ray being announced so it's only available on DVD, unlike Season 6 that had a DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray release; Warner's offers Seasons 1 to 4 through digital in 720pHD (while made in 16:9, the early seasons were done in Standard Definition, athough some reports indicate that it was only Season 1 while Seasons 2-4 were produced in HD, however Warner's has noted that while these masters may be acceptable for 720pHD download, due to how much compression is added to the file, they are apparently not acceptable for Blu-Ray). Mythbusters, Pawn Stars, Counting Cars, American Restoration, History Detectives, Finding your Roots and Pan AM are others that I can recall that have had DVD only releases but were produced and shot in HD (you could even count the 1967 Spider-Man and the 1970's The Persuaders with Roger Moore series in there that was Remasterd in HD and so far we've only seen DVD's here in North America).
But I have also downloaded a number of recent TV series that I watch that have not had a DVD release (such as Canada's Worst Driver/Worst Handyman) and quite frankly their quality ranges from just acceptable to ok for 1080p HD. But I can see more TV Series going the Digital route, as for most independent producers, it eliminates the middle-man between getting the series/movie out on a physical format.
I can also see CBS going the Digital route (perhaps through CBS All Access) for the individual season Remasters of DS9 and Voyager and then just releasing a giant Blu-Ray once it's all done.
the consensus once was, "it'll never happen," but things are looking way up for star trek lately! I think it's actually thanks to JJ, whether you like his work or not.
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TNG blurays haven't failed yet, they can always sell more. they'll make money eventually, whether through the rights to broadcast the hd episodes or through the blurays themselves, that remastering will be profitable. I think most fans like DS9 more than TNG anyway.
I'm afraid not, at least according to many of the Americans on this site. Fully recreating the episodes from HD scans of the original film stock, recompositing the effects shots and reediting cost millions yet sales of the Blurays were dismal and Trek rarely gets rebroadcast over there.
Most fans prefer DS9 ? I do, by a large margin, but viewing figures were substantially lower than TNG. It's a fair assumption that Bluray sales would be lower too. Add to this, many of the effects were CG and not on film. They can't be rescanned and recomposited - they would probably have to be done again from scratch. DS9 could cost MORE than TNG to do.
Put it this way - I'm a Niner through and through and I eventually faced the inevitable last year and purchased the DVD's...
tight, more dvd sales = higher chance of DS9 on blu! anyway, yeah I think I heard the estimate of ~20 mil for getting all of DS9 in 720p quality. they'll be getting millions of dollars per ep of STD though, so that's chump change really. maybe a billionaire fan will bankroll it, who knows?! if I had hundreds of millions, I'd risk it. even if I only recoup half of the investment... but I guess that's why I'm not a millionaire, lol! k, I know I'm dreaming....
maybe a kickstarter?
maybe a kickstarter?
side note: ps4 will actually play 4k quality blu rays, you just need a 4k tv. I know you were joking, but we'll get ds9 on blu someday, I think. 10 years from now and we'll have it. remastering costs will go down, star trek profitability will go up, easy game.
Nope. They will play 1080p Blu-ray's that were originally mastered in 4K (any player will). It is just marketing. Put a UHD disc in a PS4 and it won't play.
I'm not quite sure what the difference is... I have the 4k restoration of Madman on bluray and the ps4 reads it.
is it not truly 4k quality?
Right. The movie was mastered in 4K but then scaled down to 1080p for home video. There are lots of blu ray releases like this.
You need a special player to watch those new UHD discs.
Here is a discussion on the Playstation site speculating about the PS4 being able to play UHD discs (or not) in the future: http://community.us.playstation.com.../PS4-won-t-play-4K-Blu-ray-disc/td-p/45641469
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It's just like for years you've seen DVD's with the phrase "Remastered in High-Definition". Does that mean the DVD is High-Definition? Nope, but you are getting a cleaner image and most likely, in the case of film based content, an image that is stored on the DVD in 24p rather than 25i (for PAL) or 30i (for NTSC), so that when you play the disc in a player that upconverted it to 720p or 1080p you end up with an upscaled image that has no interlace artifacts.
As for DS9, it will get a remaster, since it is currently playing in millions of Americans homes (since most Americans still think this is the 80's and TV stations should be airing reruns like they did in the 80's) on CBS All Access, Hulu, iTunes, Amazon and a number of other digital streaming sites that people are able to access through their PS3/4, Wiiu, Blu-Ray player and laptop. Not to mention, but all the profit CBS is currently receiving from international markets for DS9 and Voyager.
Even "Star Trek
iscovery" has made a profit already on international sales alone. Here in Canada I see that Bell Media, which owns CTV/2, SPACE and Crave TV has purchased the Canadian rights to the show. And Bell Media currently owns the Canadian rights to all the other Star Trek TV series.
Surely "millions" is an exaggeration.
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