The same!
DS9 30th Anniversary
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The same!
I think they have to wait till Picard season 3 ends to know what they can do with characters in that part of the franchise. Sadly this means DS9 gets the shaft again. What should really be happening is that the show should be put in HD finally to celebrate!
Too expensive according to CBS.
TNG-R also didn't do very well, and DS9 would cost even more because of there being a lot more effects and CGI used in that series.
The cost is unimportant when it comes to preserving the show for future generations, especially as more and more people buy and watch things in 4K.
Cost is important when you're running a business.
They're not going to make something they think they're going to take a big loss on.
If that were true we'd already have a remastered DS9 and Voyager.
DS9 only continues to gain in popularity. If CBS wants all of ST to be something that continues to last, its previous shows needs to be upgraded.
And there are other ways to remaster DS9 now. The AI method is only going to get better.
But we still circle around to the elephant in the room. Remastered TNG did not do well in sales, and TNG was a more popular show than DS9. If CBS lost money remastering TNG, there's no incentive for them to remaster DS9.
Yup. All the commentary in the world around making it "more accessible" will not cause it to make money. Show that DS9 remastered is worth the investment or accept that it won't be upgraded and that current quality is acceptable.
I am by no means an expert in this space, but from what little I've read, the benefit to AI upscaling is that it is significantly cheaper than the full remastering they did for TNG, which would in turn significantly lower the threshold of sales needed for the project to be profitable.
Granted, you are not going to get TNG-level quality (it is basically a computer interpolation), but my understanding is you can still get some pretty good results. I've never seen it, but I've heard the AI upscaling of Babylon 5 was quite good. (On the other hand, I've heard the quality of the Stargate SG-1 upscaling is mediocre, and the quality of the Andromeda upscaling is pretty bad... although I've never seen either of them, either.)
Of course, as @DS9forever implies, the longer they wait to do an AI upscaling, the better the results will probably be.
GAN upscales can give great results. Certainly they still need supervision and quality control but, yes, would be way cheaper than the TNG route. Also, I'd imagine the HD TNG and the HD bits from What We Left Behind would be pretty useful in "training" the networks on up-rezzing SD Trek of that era.
Exactly.
Some remastering of DS9 was done for the documentary, "What We Left Behind". I suspect it was a test to gauge reactions, and pending the costs of new tech coming down over time.
It's also a matter of who would actually buy it and is it enough to justify the cost?
Right now, it's not in their best financial interest to do so. Maybe later that will change, but I doubt strongly that no matter what the vocal support is, the actual financial support will be languishing, especially with current economics, at least in the US.
Of course. Supply and Demand.
But eventually, when all TVs being sold are 4K (or 8K?), any shows not available in 4K will essentially disappear forever. Like b/w TV shows that weren't colorized. Eventually, there will be cheaper ways to upgrade the eps.[/QUOTE]
Except black-and-white shows did not disappear forever. Colorization was a fad that was controversial at the time and eventually died out, with the traditionalist side of the debate prevailing; older B&W productions are now usually available in their original form. For instance, the 1957 Disney Zorro series was syndicated in colorized form in 1992, but the episodes currently streaming on Disney+ are in the original black and white.
Also, while older B&W seasons of shows like The Avengers, Lost in Space, or Gilligan's Island were left out of syndication packages for many years, they were eventually made available again in syndication and then on home video. Distributors realized that a fair portion of the audience still wanted to see the shows in their original form, and that black and white was not the kiss of death it was assumed to be.
Even the animated reconstructions of the lost Doctor Who episodes are done in black and white. Although the more recent releases do also include a color option as well.
People say that but I don't see that happening. My parents and I still watch "White Christmas" in black and white. There are numerous films and TV shows my kids and I watch in black and white and are still available via DVD. It might be a smaller portion of the original audience but that does not mean it disappears, especially for those who want to enjoy the material as it was originally presented.
Heck, nostalgia channels like MeTV still regularly air classic b/w TV series like THE TWILIGHT ZONE, PERRY MASON, ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS, I LOVE LUCY, THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW, etc. And without colorization.
Is anyone really going to argue that the original TWILIGHT ZONE has disappeared forever because it's in black-and-what and not exactly filmed in 4K?
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