Extrudable/retractable gaskets surrounding the docking port doors and filling in any detected gaps before the doors open to prevent decompression. They're there, but unseen.
Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)
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Extrudable/retractable gaskets surrounding the docking port doors and filling in any detected gaps before the doors open to prevent decompression. They're there, but unseen.
I admit I've only begun to scratch the surface whether or not my plan to perfectly marry the entire interior with the exterior will work, without sacrificing too much screen accuracy of the interior sets. If needed, I will employ some trickery to at least make it appear everything fits inside, even though it actually doesn't (much like I had planned for my unfinished TOS shuttlebay). The only parts that I want to be perfectly married are the docking ports and shuttlebay. I can handle the rest with game-engine trickery if needed (the rec deck's large ceiling comes to mind).
I have my goals, but whether or not I'll be able to attain them is the question I'll soon answer. I'll always adjust those goals or make concessions if needed. Screen-accuracy of interior sets has always been more important to me than making it all fit. If I can at least maintain the illusion of it all fitting that's just fine with me.
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Well that's the thing. The gaps caused by the doors sliding out of the docking collar were egregiously visible (I regret not taking a screenshot to demonstrate), so I made a choice between making a slightly wider port with gasket geometry or just making it an airtight fit. I chose the latter.Extrudable/retractable gaskets surrounding the docking port doors and filling in any detected gaps before the doors open to prevent decompression. They're there, but unseen.
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This might save you a little time when you build out the TMP shuttlebay. I recommend going with Andrew Probert's revised matte painting for better fitment as he curves an outer walkway where in the movie it's straight and won't fit into the hull. It's subtle but when you model it you'll see why. Also, to save you a little time, according to Andrew Probert there is a ramp between the secondary hull docking port and the docking port door that Kirk and Scotty come out of. That way you don't need to split the floor levels.
Cheers
Doesn't "fitment" refer to furnishing, fixtures and cabinetry, not how something fits?
Thanks for that! I was actually planning on going with Probert's more detailed matte painting anyway, as I've always considered that's the real cargo bay, as opposed to the one we see in the film.This might save you a little time when you build out the TMP shuttlebay. I recommend going with Andrew Probert's revised matte painting for better fitment as he curves an outer walkway where in the movie it's straight and won't fit into the hull. It's subtle but when you model it you'll see why. Also, to save you a little time, according to Andrew Probert there is a ramp between the secondary hull docking port and the docking port door that Kirk and Scotty come out of. That way you don't need to split the floor levels.
Cheers
[EDIT]@blssdwlf, wait what is this "revised" matte painting you speak of? Or are you just referring to his original concept?
I plan on it! I’ve always wanted to visualize that in 3D
I guess it's his original concept. It's mostly identical to what was shown in the finished movie but he adds shuttles and corrects for the walkway curve so I consider it "revised".
Ah ok. From what I've read, and if I recall correctly, it was his concept which was to be used as a basis for the final matte painting. The matte painting used in the film was painted by someone else (I forget who?), in which the shuttles and workbees were removed.I guess it's his original concept. It's mostly identical to what was shown in the finished movie but he adds shuttles and corrects for the walkway curve so I consider it "revised".
Ahh...here it is. Over at Forgotten Trek: (http://forgottentrek.com/designing-the-motion-pictures-cargo-and-shuttle-bays/).
"Once that image is approved by the director and producers, it is sent to the Matte Department so that a 'matte painter' can paint the actual 'working' matte.
That would be Matthew Yuricich, who also painted the mattes for the air tram scene in San Francisco and the backdrop to Spock’s scene on Vulcan."
Thanks Donny. So it's his "matte rendering" that has the correct (or better) curves. Huh, I'm seeing a pattern here between his concept/renderings and the filmed version.
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They were referring to that one cargo bay concept with the giant window. Could you imagine had they not stood their ground??
@Donny, do you have any plans to have the Officers' Lounge and the Rec Deck appear more like Andrew Probert's original plans for them? I've always loved the placement within the ship that he came up with for those rooms, with the distinctive window designs allowing you to place them within the ship's exterior.
Well, the miniature lounge set seen in TMP during the Surak docking scene ended up being pretty close to Probert's original concept in form at least (minus the wood grain paneling and swoopy 70s bench seat). Remember I did a version of this lounge in a TWOK aesthetic I devised back in 2015 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/61505200@N02/albums/72157677348286581), so I'll be going back to touch that up a bit and also doing a TMP version as well.
As far as the Rec Deck goes, I've never attempted to build the screen-accurate Rec Deck before, so I'm really looking forward to that. But one following Probert's original concept? I dunno. Perhaps I can fit that into a Phase-II build if I ever go that route. My immediate concern is to craft screen-accurate interiors of both the TMP and TWOK sets, with some dabbling here and there with a Reliant or Grissom version of the interiors.
I was noticing that. Maybe a section of the drydock swings around and move back into position before launch.
