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Donald Trump is an intuitive genius, and if you don't understand this, you will never stop him.

There is nothing genius about Trump.

Jared Kushner recently had his security clearance lowered....why is this important?

Just read on.

The next security clearance that needs to be lowered is Ivanka Trumps.

After all she was the one who pushed her father to launch the 53 cruise missiles into Syria....but Ivanka won't push her father to enact more strict gun control laws after 17 American kids were recently killed in the Florida shooting....now has she?

She pushed the Trump to attack and kill people in Syria.

But then American kids are killed in the U.S. and she turns a blind eye and centers the drama on herself.

Obviously the GOP loves killing the enemy just as they do American kids.
 
I think Trump has the ability to make his attitudes and positions seem like simple common sense but rarely-expressed common sense, so hard to argue against.
Here is a good example, easy to mock and even dismiss but hard to argue against (1:18)
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To the criticism that his immigration restrictions would cause anger and resentment from Muslims he just emphasizes that there already is a lot of anger, some of it understandable anger, so bad it's hard to see how things could get worse, let alone much worse. Just from that clip you can't say that the San Bernardino attack didn't happen or isn't too consequential or, easily, that yes things are bad but they still could be much worse.

In general he defends himself by pointing out that a lot of situations were bad before he came in and critics generally can't reasonably deny that.

Did you notice during the clip maybe at least 6 times, Trump looks or glances at the camera? I'm not sure, but isn't the normal etiquette for a face to face interview to look at the interviewer at all times? It almost seems that Trump is trying to get "pseudo-eye contact" with the viewer. Not sure if he planned to do that the first time he did it, or he found out one day by accident that the interviews go over better if he occasionally looks at the camera in this type of interview.
 
by building a reputation as a successful billionaire businessman

His one attribute has been media manipulation - he actually ran his businesses into the ground and was kept afloat by his celebrity. Read about the Trump Taj Mahal or the United States Football League if you think he was a great businessman. And as of his inauguration, the Wall Street Journal and others estimate Trump companies to be several billion dollars in debt.

From the Washington Post:
Trump’s Taj Mahal opened in April 1990 in Atlantic City, but six months later, defaulted on interest payments to bondholders as his finances went into a tailspin. In July 1991, Trump’s Taj Mahal filed for bankruptcy. He could not keep up with debts on two other Atlantic City casinos, and those two properties declared bankruptcy in 1992. A fourth property, the Plaza Hotel in New York, declared bankruptcy in 1992 after amassing debt.

Politifact uncovered more bankruptcies filed after 1992, totaling six. Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts filed for bankruptcy again in 2004, after accruing about $1.8 billion in debt. Trump Entertainment Resorts also declared bankruptcy in 2009.
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From PBS Frontline:

The New York Times
obtained portions of Donald Trump’s tax returns from 1995 which revealed that the candidate declared a loss of $916 million that year.

It’s a loss that could have allowed Trump to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years, according to tax experts interviewed by the Times.

The Choice 2016, FRONTLINE’s documentary on the lives of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, takes a close look at the decisions that led to that nearly $1 billion loss — including the purchase and subsequent struggles of three Atlantic City casinos, an airline, a yacht, and the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan — and how Trump and his financial backers responded as one by one, those investments failed.

“He sort of blamed the people around him for what went wrong instead of himself,” Barbara Res, a vice president of the Trump Organization from 1980 to 1992, tells FRONTLINE.

The banks that Trump and his companies owed billions to faced a choice: cut ties with Trump or bail him out.

Ultimately, the banks decided that Trump was too big to fail. As they stared into the Trump Organization’s financial abyss, they came to decide that Trump’s assets — the buildings, the casinos — were worth more with his name still attached to them than they would be in foreclosure.

As The Choice 2016 details, they even put Trump on a $450,000-a-month allowance. In exchange, he would continue to promote the business.

“I think bankers look at Trump as a promoter, not as a CEO. At least, that’s the way I looked at him,” Ben Berzin, who as vice president of Midlantic Bank helped negotiate Trump’s rescue, tells FRONTLINE. “And if you talk to other bankers, I think they share that opinion. He’s a wonderful promoter. He — you know, he’s the P. T. Barnum of the 21st century.”
 
Did you notice during the clip maybe at least 6 times, Trump looks or glances at the camera? I'm not sure, but isn't the normal etiquette for a face to face interview to look at the interviewer at all times? It almost seems that Trump is trying to get "pseudo-eye contact" with the viewer. Not sure if he planned to do that the first time he did it, or he found out one day by accident that the interviews go over better if he occasionally looks at the camera in this type of interview.
In contrast remember Obama flubbing his delivery without his teleprompter? His speeches were soooo forced :barf:
 
In contrast remember Obama flubbing his delivery without his teleprompter? His speeches were soooo forced :barf:
I always felt Obama was a great orator, unless he had to speak directly off the cuff. Then you'd get the "ums" and "uhs" that most of us do when we have to formulate something on the spot.
 
I always felt Obama was a great orator, unless he had to speak directly off the cuff. Then you'd get the "ums" and "uhs" that most of us do when we have to formulate something on the spot.
Bill Clinton was a good speech maker. Some people just have 'it'. Obama not so much in my opinion though he does engender a kind of sincerity. Trump is too mocking for my liking. He ridicules too much. Hillary - tried hard but that showed. You should find some footage of the New Zealand Prime Minister, she's just lovely.
 
Bill Clinton was a good speech maker. Some people just have 'it'. Obama not so much in my opinion though he does engender a kind of sincerity. Trump is too mocking for my liking. He ridicules too much. Hillary - tried hard but that showed. You should find some footage of the New Zealand Prime Minister, she's just lovely.
True. I'm pretty sure Bill could talk anyone into or out of anything. For Obama, it was that sincerity that worked for me. I think he really did work to do the best he could, regardless of how it turned out. Like you, I don't like that Trump seems to mock everything. I believe if we're going to have a president, they should represent the best in all of us. Hillary wanted to do great things, but I was never full inspired by her speeches. I was more into her ideas as a policy wonk. Speeches were not her forte.

I looked up the NZ Prime Minister, and holy cow, she's only 37! You're right, though, she is lovely, and she's quite good as a speaker. She appears sincere, and seems to stick to topic without a lot of the oratory crutches most of us fall back on when speaking off-the-cuff.
 
In contrast remember Obama flubbing his delivery without his teleprompter? His speeches were soooo forced :barf:
The Obama teleprompter talking point? Greetings, visitor from 2009. Yes, every President since the invention of the teleprompter has used teleprompters. Especially the ones that actually give detailed policy speeches on a regular basis rather than mush-mouthed nationalist platitudes, Fox News talking points, and bigoted insults. Congratulations on your stunning insight into presidential communications.

Yeah, Obama was such a terrible public speaker. It's not like giving a rousing speech at the 2004 DNC was what brought him to national attention, or that he was well known for giving moving speeches on multiple occasions or anything.

And you know why he paused a lot and used verbal crutches when he was speaking off the cuff? Because unlike the current Commander in Chief, who needs a cheat sheet to be reminded to act like an actual human being and say he "hears you", Obama actually was THINKING about what he was going to say and how it would affect and be viewed by the public and our allies, and how it would influence policy. He paused because he actually knew what the hell he was talking about and was well-versed on the law and policy (you know, because he was a Constitutional law professor, which kind of requires some public speaking talent). He paused to actually think about and answer the question in detail based on his extensive knowledge of the subject matter. And he actually either wrote himself or extensively edited many of his most important speeches.

Granted, in the annals of presidential history it's no toilet-bound Fox & Friends inspired tweetstorm after a vigorous session of breakfast Big Mac and McNugget munching, but we reach.
 
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It looks like Trump is wanting to start a trade war now.

Sure you can complain about foreign steel/aluminium being cheaper, but guess what companies don't have to buy that cheaper steel/aluminium they can but more expensive domestic steel/aluminium. Companies/people generally follow the 3rd rule of acquisition.

Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.
 
I really don't know why the IRS hasn't gone full bore after Trump. In 1995 claimed a massive $916 million in losses that allowed him to be exempt from federal income taxes for about 18 years. But most of that lost money was not his. It was loaned money. He defaulted on those loans.

Trump is not an intuitive genius. He's an intuitive manipulator and puffer-fish. Yes, a puffer. Able to make himself look much bigger than he actually is. He hired several talented people to help him figure out how to leverage debt to make himself look more accomplished than he actually is. It's like filming someone else's business, showing it to investors as if it were yours, then using their money to quickly build up what you'd filmed so that when they finally show up, they believe you. Meanwhile, if your business starts to fail, you're screwed because you've got no cushion. The Trump Taj Mahal was such a feat.

Now look at Trump's Panama debacle: Trump’s Panama hotel debacle goes from bad to worse
That was "Ivanka's baby," by the way. Essentially this became a little haven for criminal cartels to launder money. Buy up luxury condos using dirty money. Trump was all too happy to oblige. It's not on US soil. Expectations is that you're so far above the fray, nobody will notice. Well... until you get sloppy. Which they did.
 
It looks like Trump is wanting to start a trade war now.
All because he had a bad day and decided to throw an infantile temper tantrum that will potentially damage the US and world economy!

According to two officials, Trump's decision to launch a potential trade war was born out of anger at other simmering issues and the result of a broken internal process that has failed to deliver him consensus views that represent the best advice of his team.

On Wednesday evening, the president became "unglued," in the words of one official familiar with the president's state of mind.

A trifecta of events had set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election, conduct by his embattled attorney general and the treatment of his son-in-law by his chief of staff.

Trump, the two officials said, was angry and gunning for a fight, and he chose a trade war, spurred on by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Peter Navarro, the White House director for trade — and against longstanding advice from his economic chair Gary Cohn and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...d-when-he-started-trade-war-officials-n852641

Yep, intuitive genius.
 
All because he had a bad day and decided to throw an infantile temper tantrum that will potentially damage the US and world economy!

According to two officials, Trump's decision to launch a potential trade war was born out of anger at other simmering issues and the result of a broken internal process that has failed to deliver him consensus views that represent the best advice of his team.

On Wednesday evening, the president became "unglued," in the words of one official familiar with the president's state of mind.

A trifecta of events had set him off in a way that two officials said they had not seen before: Hope Hicks' testimony to lawmakers investigating Russia's interference in the 2016 election, conduct by his embattled attorney general and the treatment of his son-in-law by his chief of staff.

Trump, the two officials said, was angry and gunning for a fight, and he chose a trade war, spurred on by Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Peter Navarro, the White House director for trade — and against longstanding advice from his economic chair Gary Cohn and Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...d-when-he-started-trade-war-officials-n852641

Yep, intuitive genius.

Yes I read about his tantrum as well. The problem his base won't care about the negative side effects of a trade war as they will blindly believe and follow what he says. We can't live on nostalgic ideals of yesteryear.
 
When Obama gives a speech it sounds inspirational. It sounds natural, scripted or not. When Trump gives a scripted speech, it sounds like a middle-schooler reading a report for class. When it's not scripted, it sounds like everything his base wants to hear. Which is inspirational for them and makes the rest us wonder which will come first: Civil War II, World War III, or 2020?

EDIT: And I don't say this because Trump is a Republican. Reagan was a gifted speech-maker, they didn't call him The Great Communicator for nothing. Ted Cruz, even though I disagree with him on just about everything, is also good at making speeches. Trump has to be off-the-cuff or it doesn't work. He can't read a speech to save his life.
 
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Trump can spout whatever thing that comes to his mind at the moment, but it's just that... not policy. Not until Congress has something to say about it, unless it's something that qualifies as an executive order. But somebody has to talk Trump down from this lunacy tree... unless there are people in the White House who actually think this is a good idea and were the inspiration for Trump to run with it. That could easily be the case. It's all just sheer madness, no matter which way you look at it. Eventually all of these bad policies are going to come home to roost, as the policies from the former administration wear away (or are outright chopped off at the knees, as Trump and his staff has been prone to do).
 
When Obama gives a speech it sounds inspirational. It sounds natural, scripted or not. When Trump gives a scripted speech, it sounds like a middle-schooler reading a report for class. When it's not scripted, it sounds like everything his base wants to hear. Which is inspirational for them and makes the rest us wonder which will come first: Civil War II, World War III, or 2020?

EDIT: And I don't say this because Trump is a Republican. Reagan was a gifted speech-maker, they didn't call him The Great Communicator for nothing. Ted Cruz, even though I disagree with him on just about everything, is also good at making speeches. Trump has to be off-the-cuff or it doesn't work. He can't read a speech to save his life.
I disagree, Obama came across like a stuffed shirt. His speeches were dreary.
 
I disagree, Obama came across like a stuffed shirt. His speeches were dreary.

Which politicians do you think give great speeches? Presidents in particular, if there are any.

Leaving out Obama, I think Reagan, Kennedy, and Roosevelt were the best at it. On the flip side, listening to Lyndon Johnson would put me to sleep. Ford and Carter don't exactly sound that inspiring to me either.
 
Which politicians do you think give great speeches? Presidents in particular, if there are any.

Leaving out Obama, I think Reagan, Kennedy, and Roosevelt were the best at it. On the flip side, listening to Lyndon Johnson would put me to sleep.
I mentioned earlier in the thread I thought Clinton was an engaging speaker. It really is a combination of both the speech (content) and the delivery. I actually agree with the criticisms of Trump in that he seems to have neither. He often flares up like a bully, yet other times he kind of speaks softly. However just because one is able to dislike Trump in this manner doesn't mean by default we should project on Obama more than he was either. His tone was boring.

Footage I've seen of Kennedy shows a President who was comfortable giving a speech. Both him and Reagan had good timing in their delivery.

Is there anyone to compare to Churchill ;)
 
Bobby Kennedy was an excellent speaker. He would've made a great president, probably more profound than his brother Jack. Sure wish he'd had the chance...
 
However just because one is able to dislike Trump in this manner doesn't mean by default we should project on Obama more than he was either.
No one's projecting anything. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't mistake it for some kind of conclusive fact.

What is a fact is that many public speaking experts and presidential historians consider Obama a great orator and one of the best presidential public speakers of the modern era.

I know I'm wasting my time, but here are some articles on his public speaking abilities and technique:

Liberal bastion Forbes (that's sarcasm, btw):
Barack Obama: A Master Class in Public Speaking

Six lessons in public speaking from Obama

What Makes Obama a Good Speaker?

8 Powerful Speech Techniques that President Barack Obama used to “Wow” the World in his Presidential Victory Speech 2012

British perspective from The Guardian:
Obama is the nation's orator-in-chief, and he deserves the title and the accolades

Eloquence and literary power make President Obama one of the nation's great orators

To address the point about how he pauses during speeches:
Want to Be a Brilliant Public Speaker? Take a Cue From One of President Obama's Quirks
Love him or hate him, President Obama's predictable habit of hesitating when talking speaks volumes about his intelligence and communication genius.


Obama Is America’s Third Greatest Presidential Orator in Modern Era

Christian Science Monitor:
On eve of State of the Union: top five presidential orators of modern times

7 Reasons Why Obama's Speeches Are So Powerful
The president is using his enormous skills as a communicator to express a moral framework.
 
No one's projecting anything. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't mistake it for some kind of conclusive fact.

What is a fact is that many public speaking experts and presidential historians consider Obama a great orator and one of the best presidential public speakers of the modern era.

I know I'm wasting my time, but here are some articles on his public speaking abilities and technique:

Liberal bastion Forbes (that's sarcasm, btw):
Barack Obama: A Master Class in Public Speaking

Six lessons in public speaking from Obama

What Makes Obama a Good Speaker?

8 Powerful Speech Techniques that President Barack Obama used to “Wow” the World in his Presidential Victory Speech 2012

British perspective from The Guardian:
Obama is the nation's orator-in-chief, and he deserves the title and the accolades

Eloquence and literary power make President Obama one of the nation's great orators

To address the point about how he pauses during speeches:
Want to Be a Brilliant Public Speaker? Take a Cue From One of President Obama's Quirks
Love him or hate him, President Obama's predictable habit of hesitating when talking speaks volumes about his intelligence and communication genius.


Obama Is America’s Third Greatest Presidential Orator in Modern Era

Christian Science Monitor:
On eve of State of the Union: top five presidential orators of modern times

7 Reasons Why Obama's Speeches Are So Powerful
The president is using his enormous skills as a communicator to express a moral framework.
I'll look at these. :)
 
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