Does this series seem more mature and grittier than the other series?

[Lord Garth]

DSC is very gritty. I expect several people to be killed in The Mirror Universe.

Whether or not they're series regulars or our version of series regulars will be interesting to see.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Ok, I'm done. The next person to derail the thread talking about agendas instead of the thread topic will earn an infraction. I've asked several times.

 

[GeekUSACarl]

But when they do stuff just to appeal to minorities bothers me. A black female lead with a gender neutral name with a gay couple in the mix? Give me a break...

You mean, normal society?

 

[{ Emilia }]

You mean, normal society?

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were already typing your post at the time I was posting and simply didn't see my post in time. Don't make me regret this.

 

[GeekUSACarl]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were already typing your post at the time I was posting and simply didn't see my post in time. Don't make me regret this.

Yes, sorry and understood. And I won't.

 

[Garak]

But when they do stuff just to appeal to minorities bothers me. A black female lead with a gender neutral name with a gay couple in the mix? Give me a break...

So you expect a show set in space in the future to be like earth in the 1950s?

That's just weird

 

[{ Emilia }]

So you expect a show set in space in the future to be like earth in the 1950s?

That's just weird

I've repeatedly asked people to get back to the topic and not derail the thread to discuss "SJW agendas" and related things. I've specifically said I'll hand out infractions if this doesn't get back on track now. You really should know better, Garak.

You're adorable so you'll get a hug and an infraction for trolling and failing to follow mod instructions. Comments to PM.

 

[Nyotarules]

But why? Just to be politically correct?
A female named Michael? Embarrasing

Maybe that kind of politically correct stuff isn’t for Star Trek

A male actor born with the name Marion ever heard of him?

 

[Nyotarules]

I would love to see Voyager and Enterprise with the CGI they use in STD, otherwise I think Discovery is bad. Too much of a SJW festival

I will assume you watched TOS, TNG etc with your eyes closed

 

[Nyotarules]

But when they do stuff just to appeal to minorities bothers me. A black female lead with a gender neutral name with a gay couple in the mix? Give me a break...

Lets keep appealing white males instead.......so much more fun

 

[Nyotarules]

I've repeatedly asked people to get back to the topic and not derail the thread to discuss "SJW agendas" and related things. I've specifically said I'll hand out infractions if this doesn't get back on track now. You really should know better, Garak.

You're adorable so you'll get a hug and an infraction for trolling and failing to follow mod instructions. Comments to PM.

Sorry just read this do you want me to delete my posts?

 

[Nyotarules]

DISC more gritty and mature (if by mature you mean adult) then yes. But its not comparing like with like if TOS TNG ENT etc were on HBO there would be more neck breaking and Klingon titties on show.

 

[MacLeod]

Or is the show just giving what modern audiances want from a show? Would the show have worked as is, say ten years ago, what about 20?

 

[{ Emilia }]

Locking this thread for a few hours, waiting for people to learn to read mod instructions. Another infraction might follow.

When this thread is opened again, I expect to see not a single offtopic post.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Unlocking. Stick to the topic.

Considering a whole bunch of people were misbehaving, I figured I'll have to hand out infractions to everybody or nobody.
I'll assume some people wrote their replies without having read the whole thread and thus missed my warning but that's no excuse.

In the interest of not making this bigger than it needs to be I have decided to reverse the infraction for @Garak because it would be unfair to single him out.

Don't mistake that for leniency. My patience with people derailing the thread has definitely run out.

You have all seen it now since the thread has been locked for hours.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

I subscribe to the consensus that Discovery is far "grittier" than other Treks, but has the maturity of a 16-year-old Star Trek RPG player who just saw Battlestar Galactica for the first time. Its grittiness is not realistic; it's an aesthetic affectation that often comes across as wooden or heavy-handed (e.g. Tilly's cussing and the various Shocking Deaths). DS9 and even TOS/ENT are more realistic about how soldiers actually behave.

I think you hit the nail on the head with this. DSC may appear to be grittier than previous Trek series because of modern production values but it’s grittiness is only superficial. Battlestar Galactica did it far better and almost 15 years earlier.

 

[Tenacity]

Would the show have worked as is, say ten years ago, what about 20?

You would probably have to trim out surprisingly little to show it in the late nineties. One or two words per episode, a small number of seconds of violence from a few scenes.

I haven't seen every episode, has there been any topless women or explicit sex?

 

[Apparition B5]

I don't know about more mature, but it's definitely grittier. Too gritty, IMO. That's why I had to stop watching it. I've recently begun re-watching Star Trek: Voyager. In one first season episode, "State of Flux," Chakotay and Tuvok beam aboard a disabled Kazon ship, and encounter a lot of dead bodies, melded to parts of the ship. No blood at all. I was able to hold my lunch down! It was completely unlike the third episode of Discovery.

 

[KittyHAWK]

So far it is, double expresso of grit - courage and resolve = take risk and sometimes it comes with mishaps, to put lightly. Ash's flashbacks from PSTD - yet tries to function as an officer who was a mutineer. XO Burhnam has to fake herself into comand in a Tyrant Empire. OH, XO Burhnam heh mutinied before. Saving Sarek's arse. Stamets' fusion with I term it Myconics and making super freaking crazy teleports. Lorca, though needs re-assessment and therapy, making, well, iron-fisted decisions, one that lands him the taser chamber.

Celestial: Too gritty is too soon to be conclusive. The pace is fast, dark and comes with twists, I rather enjoy it since my days of watching TNG, and DS9 as a youngin. I found them too agonizing and tedious. STD is adventure with a campaign setting in interstellar space.

 

[Dijeirusan]

I haven't seen every episode, has there been any topless women or explicit sex?

There are flashes of a topless Klingon having sex, but it's from when Ash Tyler was a sex slave, so it's essential rape. The UK ratings council gave the episode where the first flash of it happened a 12 rating (just under PG-13 certificate), so it's hardly explicit.