I imagine that the show will stay exclusive to CBS All Access, with Blu-Ray and perhaps Ultra HD Blu-Ray sets available a month or so prior to the start of the second season. That's the way most shows seem to work now.
Does anyone think we'll see the show in the States OUTSIDE "All Access" at any point?
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If you see no difference, either you have vision problems or it was set up incorrectly. I have many friends who don't feel the difference is worth the financial costs of switching and there's nothing wrong with that point of view. But to state there is no difference is not a matter of opinion. It is factually incorrect.
I think that the first season could be in second-run syndication by the time the second season starts. Syndication may be dead as far as first-run dramas are concerned, but it's never been hotter for reruns. Local stations--if not a national cable network--might jump at a chance to air a new Trek series that can't be seen on regular TV. The real issue may be how badly TPTB want it to be exclusive to All Access versus domestic rerun sales, which could be millions of dollars in itself if done like other current CBS shows.
I hate to keep repeating myself with the same question/analogy, but is House of Cards in syndication? Is Daredevil? Orange is the New Black? Man in the High Castle? Is any first run streaming show?
The earlier seasons of the shows are all available if you subscribe to the service. Why would the streaming service allow non-subscribers to watch the show? Sure if a local/cable station paid enough they might be able to convince the streaming service, but it's doubtful that the station could then make enough back on advertising to justify the cost.
None of those shows are from CBS, so you can can't use them as analogies (you can stop repeating yourself). The real question is what will CBS do. Despite them being available on All Access, CBS still has a ton of current and older shows--including Trek shows--being sold in second-run syndication, either sold to individual local stations or to national networks.
But this is the show CBS is using to launch original programming on its streaming service, so it is logical to assume it will use the model for it that other streaming services follow.
None of the CBS shows on All Access, are in first run on All Access. Until CBS shows otherwise, the best model to predict behavior for first run streaming shows on All Access are other first run streaming shows, not shows being broadcast on CBS.
Technically Daredevil and Jessica Jones (and the other Marvel Netflix shows) are from ABC. They are all produced by ABC Studios.
Who would sell the streaming shows for syndication, the streaming service or the production company?
Actually, the best model to use is simply that of a CBS show with rebroadcast rights to be sold. All Access will still have dibs on any first-run episodes as any network would have, but reruns are another matter entirely, and in that case, it's not so much an issue of if but when they are sold domestically. What other networks have done is really irrelevant if CBS wants to have their cake and eat it too.
But then we're also talking about CBS here. They make millions selling reruns of shows all year, every year. They may not want to hold off selling rerun episodes of the new Trek series for [Insert number of years here], especially if people will log in to All Access for the first-run episodes anyway.
CBS is both a production company and a distributor. They are already selling the show for international syndication.
There's no argument that CBS wants some kind of exclusivity with the new show in the States, but the question is for how long? Would season one episodes air in syndication as season two airs on All Access? Or will they go the old broadcast TV route of waiting for a certain number of episodes that could then be aired daily? Either way, All Access would win.
It depends on TPTB for each show and what they want to do with it, but it's generally the network or parent studio that handles syndication sales. In the case of the new Trek series, CBS is already handling syndication sales for the international market, with All Access not really being involved in that.
Guys...it was in the very first news release that somebody from CBS has been qouted that the first season has already been almost fully paid for by international licensing alone. So I guess the show will show up (pardon the pun) on what ever network the other shows are shown in the various countries. So for germany I'm guessing SAT1, or maybe SciFi. But it may have been licensed by the local versions of Netflix or Amazon Prime in some countries.
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The OP was about seeing the show outside All Access within the United States.
The OP was about seeing the show outside All Access within the United States.
I'm really hoping this comes to Netflix outside of the U. S.
Star Trek is notorious for having a largely American-centric fanbase. The films have always fared a lot better with American audiences than European or Asian audiences (although, Paramount seems to be putting a lot of focus on China with Beyond), so in terms of television, Netflix is always a good bet when it comes to getting viewers, old fans/non-fans alike.
Mainly just for convenience's sake though
Star Trek is notorious for having a largely American-centric fanbase. The films have always fared a lot better with American audiences than European or Asian audiences (although, Paramount seems to be putting a lot of focus on China with Beyond), so in terms of television, Netflix is always a good bet when it comes to getting viewers, old fans/non-fans alike.
Mainly just for convenience's sake though
I wouldn't be surprised if it winds up on Sky here for Irish audiences, though; Sky monopolized all the Star Trek spinoffs during the 1990s.
Of course, they did the same with the X-FIles, and the reboot turned up on RTE2 of all places, so who knows; we may be seeing people explore new worlds and new civilizations and have adverts for Republic of Telly betwixt it.
I'll definitely buy it that's for sure.
CBS is using Star Trek and other new content such as the Good Wife spinoff to promote All Access, so no, I do not think we'll see Star Trek on any other service (inside the U.S.), certainly not another streaming service during its first run.
Compromises I could potentially see them making:
1. Airing the episodes on the CBS television network after the season has aired, perhaps during the summer when networks don't have much first-run content to offer. They won't air the series on regular network TV during the actual season because that negates what they're trying to accomplish by building a streaming network.
2. Assuming CBS intends to continue allowing Netflix, HuluPlus, and Amazon Prime to continue streaming the previous Trek series, they might allow them to purchase the new series (at a very high price) and air it a season behind. However, CBS might decide to gamble not to renew streaming contracts for Trek with the big three streaming services and make All Access THE home for streaming Trek.
Compromises I could potentially see them making:
1. Airing the episodes on the CBS television network after the season has aired, perhaps during the summer when networks don't have much first-run content to offer. They won't air the series on regular network TV during the actual season because that negates what they're trying to accomplish by building a streaming network.
2. Assuming CBS intends to continue allowing Netflix, HuluPlus, and Amazon Prime to continue streaming the previous Trek series, they might allow them to purchase the new series (at a very high price) and air it a season behind. However, CBS might decide to gamble not to renew streaming contracts for Trek with the big three streaming services and make All Access THE home for streaming Trek.
I doubt it will be on CBS or CW any time soon. If it's on CBS over the summer a couple months after it airs on CBSAA there will be too many people who wait for it on CBS to watch for free. I would expect BD/DVD at some point between the end of season 1 and the start of season 2. I doubt it will show up on another streaming service while CBSAA operates. It's not like you see Amazon streaming old seasons of House of Cards, or Netflix showing Transparent. If anything, I expect CBS to not renew contracts for the old shows on Netflix/Amazon and make CBSAA the exclusive home of all Star Trek content in the US.
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