Doctor Who – 4x06 – The Doctor’s Daughter (Grade/Discuss)
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Really? I thought that was the weakest, most unbelievable part of the episode. And it raised the unanswered question of why General Cliche was significantly older looking than everyone else.
Perhaps it's because he was cloned the most and there's some degradation in the DNA as a result?
TBH I thought that was because he had somehow survived the 7 days.
He was significantly older then the rest, by more than a bloody week. If he had been there at the start of the war then he would surely be a member of the original crew - evidently he wasn't, seeing as how he was as much a victim of the chinese whispers and propaganda as everyone else was. He could have been lying, but I don't believe that for a second. He seemed genuinely convinced of the god-like power in "the source" or whatever they called the terraform sphere.
The argument could be made that the genetic copies age very quickly. After all, they must be accelerated somehow to emerge from the pod as adults. If that's the case, Jenny is fucked (unless her super-duper time lord DNA saves her from the advanced ageing). So is the rest of "THIS WORLD OF HUMAN AND HATH", because they'll all surely start dying of old age before they've had the chance to breed naturally.
Perhaps we'll revisit this society and find a world populated with genetic copies who have an average life expectancy of 2 weeks. Somehow I doubt the writer planned that far ahead.
That's what I figured.
Jenny isn't human. Even an accelerated time lord life-span is plenty long. The Doctor is centuries old, after all.
Either that or he was just aged further in the pod.
In the podcast David Tennant asks RTD about Cobb's age and the possibility that Cobb is a survivor of the original generation of soldiers, mentioning that this had been discussed on set when RTD wasn't around. RTD points out that Cobb talks mythologically about the war and doesn't seem to know it's only been seven days. (No one points this out, but Cobb could of course be lying about that.) He then suggests that if the machine's on a different setting it produces a straightforward clone. Which would make a certain sense: if Cobb has a good strategic mind you'd want it back rather than getting a twist on his DNA that might be less inspired.
Average episode that should have been a two-parter with more character development on Jenny. Damn, that girl is hella healthy and CUTE 
Boy did she look like Sally Sparrow sometimes or what? Very cute.
I love the aliens they create on this show. Those fish things where quite strange. I think I liked this episode more than the others this season. I don't know why but it's been a tough season for me to get in to.
I love the aliens they create on this show. Those fish things where quite strange. I think I liked this episode more than the others this season. I don't know why but it's been a tough season for me to get in to.
Nah, Jenny coming out fully clothed and with full make up was far more unbelievable than that, but overall I thought it was a good ep. though.
Re: Doctor Who – 4x06 – The Doctor’s Daughter (Grade/Discuss)
Watching this again I realize just how thin this episode is. Silly run-around plot, lackluster "revelation", unearned emotions. First viewing you can be intrigued by the concept of the Doctor's Daughter and fish people. Still, nice eye candy there, ya ol' dog Tennant...
Watching this again I realize just how thin this episode is. Silly run-around plot, lackluster "revelation", unearned emotions. First viewing you can be intrigued by the concept of the Doctor's Daughter and fish people. Still, nice eye candy there, ya ol' dog Tennant...
Re: Doctor Who – 4x06 – The Doctor’s Daughter (Grade/Discuss)
I have to say that other posters in the thread grading the previous episode called it. The Doctors daughter was a dna clone. I was somewhat disapointed that this was revealed within the first 5 minutes of the episode. However I did like the episode very much and voted fantastic. I really thought that his daughter was dead in the end but the last minute changed all of that. There is definately room for more stories on Jenna if written well. I do have to agree with other posters that there should have been more time for charactor development on Jenna. This could have very well been a two part episode.
I have to say that other posters in the thread grading the previous episode called it. The Doctors daughter was a dna clone. I was somewhat disapointed that this was revealed within the first 5 minutes of the episode. However I did like the episode very much and voted fantastic. I really thought that his daughter was dead in the end but the last minute changed all of that. There is definately room for more stories on Jenna if written well. I do have to agree with other posters that there should have been more time for charactor development on Jenna. This could have very well been a two part episode.
This is one of those almost perfect episodes for me. The problem was the cliche' of someone literally taking the bullet for the hero; in this episode, it seemed an especially forced resolution.
I think it would have been much better to see Jenny sacrifice herself as the only way to activate the terra-former in time. It would have played on all the themes of changing a soldier into a saint, and it would have even given more of a nudge toward explaining how Jenny regenerated without regenerating (i.e. residual terra-former energy would have saved her).
Of course, I can see why they didn't do the above; they didn't want to repeat what they had just done in the previous episode with the kid taking the Doctor's place. However, I think the "trading places" ploy would have been a much better use in the Jenny story; they should have made any changes to the end of the Sontaran story in my opinion.
All in all, love Jenny and would love to see her as a companion in the future.
I think it would have been much better to see Jenny sacrifice herself as the only way to activate the terra-former in time. It would have played on all the themes of changing a soldier into a saint, and it would have even given more of a nudge toward explaining how Jenny regenerated without regenerating (i.e. residual terra-former energy would have saved her).
Of course, I can see why they didn't do the above; they didn't want to repeat what they had just done in the previous episode with the kid taking the Doctor's place. However, I think the "trading places" ploy would have been a much better use in the Jenny story; they should have made any changes to the end of the Sontaran story in my opinion.
All in all, love Jenny and would love to see her as a companion in the future.
Why do I see a spin-off series called "Jenny Who" aimed at the tween-age girls like a sci-fi Hannah Montana?
And that Martha is such a great doctor! Why, with just a mere glance at the wound with the Doctor's hand obscuring it she was able to not only diagnose Jenny's wound as fatal to Time Lords as well as seeing she had no regenerations.
And that Martha is such a great doctor! Why, with just a mere glance at the wound with the Doctor's hand obscuring it she was able to not only diagnose Jenny's wound as fatal to Time Lords as well as seeing she had no regenerations.
Yeah, I had the same thought myself.
The problem with Earth medicine is that it can't diagnose Time Lords very well. Even in the original series, they always managed to botch every diagnosis of the Doctor almost without fail...
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Not to mention actually killing him in the TV movie!
After seeing the episode, I realized it was a convoluted and rather weak way just to get another "Time Lord" out there (even if it is just a DNA clone).
The thing I like about Who, unlike other shows, is that I can get completely wrapped up in it during the hour, enjoy it, "in the moment," and then realize the silliness of it all. The plot problems mentioned by others never occurred to me while watching it.
Which is why I like it better than SG-1 (the later seasons, really), because I would start to pick apart the episode as I watched it.
So, even, bad-Who is better than most other shows out there!
Not to mention actually killing him in the TV movie!
After seeing the episode, I realized it was a convoluted and rather weak way just to get another "Time Lord" out there (even if it is just a DNA clone).
The thing I like about Who, unlike other shows, is that I can get completely wrapped up in it during the hour, enjoy it, "in the moment," and then realize the silliness of it all. The plot problems mentioned by others never occurred to me while watching it.
Which is why I like it better than SG-1 (the later seasons, really), because I would start to pick apart the episode as I watched it.
So, even, bad-Who is better than most other shows out there!
You shouldn't. I didn't seem the character as being that kind of girl.
And, boy is Georgia Moffett smokin' hot.
I assumed she was going to be dead at the end of the episode. When she stepped in front of the Doctor I thought, 'well here it comes'. I was surprised and rather pleased that she was brought back to life in a Trek-like way.
In fact the entire episode reminded me of Trek, complete with heavy handed preaching (by the Doctor) at the end.
I don't know about this season. So far nothing has been any more than average to me, well this one was slightly below. I'm assuming and hoping that better episodes are later in the season.