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Poll Do you prefer the digitally remastered Enterprise?

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  • Yes

    Votes: 44 32.1%
  • Nope

    Votes: 66 48.2%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 6 4.4%
  • What remastered Enterprise?

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • I'll take any version I can get

    Votes: 20 14.6%

  • Total voters
    137
For me it's not a model of 'model vs CGI.' It's the fact that with the new shots, you can get different angles and actually add space traffic around a starbase, show vessels as something other than blurry, amorphous blobs, and the planetary environments look TONS better in the CGI versions.

I still think the best looking classic Connie we've seen on the small screen was the Mirror-verse Defiant in Enterprise.
 
CBS Digital
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Star Trek Continues
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:)Spockboy
 
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Looking at the comparison, I'm just struck again by how the CGI version is grey. What were they thinking? Okay, I know the model is grey, but TOS got a light bluish grey through lighting or filmstock or however they did it. It's consistent throughout the series, so it was clearly not an accident. Why would they change it to a battleship grey?
 
Looking at the comparison, I'm just struck again by how the CGI version is grey. What were they thinking? Okay, I know the model is grey, but TOS got a light bluish grey through lighting or filmstock or however they did it. It's consistent throughout the series, so it was clearly not an accident. Why would they change it to a battleship grey?

Actually the TOS Enterprise is a distinct GREY/GREEN. In fact the ship has MANY colors.

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And that doesn't include the GOLD SILVER and BRONZE from the deflector dish and 5 (count 'em) 5 different shades of grey.

:)Spockboy
 
The point is, even if the model production hull was gray-green, on TV screens in the 1960s through today it looked light bluish gray, and that is the color the Blu Rays should have been aiming for.
 
The point is, even if the model production hull was gray-green, on TV screens in the 1960s through today it looked light bluish gray, and that is the color the Blu Rays should have been aiming for.

Oh really?
Is that the point?

Okay cool.
 
Well, I knew you wouldn't pass up an opportunity to say that, haw haw!

As for what's outside the window, supposedly it's the same as what was used to depict Mohave in "The Cage". And per for following website:

http://www.freemars.org/mnfan/MNSFS/2007-11-ST-Menagerie/

"In Roddenberry's utopian vision, parts of the Mojave desert became glittering cities, surrounded by vast, green parklands. These idyllic parklands were the setting for Captain Pike's illusory picnic with Vina. Ironically, Star Trek rarely visited future Earth because it would have cost too much to show it on film. One tiny exception was this skyline in Pike's dream. In the original scene, filmed in 1964, the futuristic city of Mojave was represented by a subtle series of tiny cutout buildings, seen briefly in the distance behind Pike's picnic scene."
 
That still looks like a matte rather than cutouts.

Mojave/Planet Q was a painting, but technically it was a cyclorama, not a matte painting.

Edit: JTB "I always thought it was just a painted backdrop at the back of the set."

That's right, that's what a cyclorama is.

Coming back to this, check out the following current Ebay auction for the set designs for "Conscience of the King"; it shows the area outside Leighton's window, and refers to "cutouts" in the area where I think the background city was that are represented by lines, suggesting that a painting of sorts was indeed used.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-St...624363?hash=item43fabee92b:g:4gYAAOSwOtdYTfIM
 
The new rendered Enterprise looks less "toyish" but it could be better. As for the planets, every one of them looks superb in the new version (the old planets effects were really distracting, to say the least).
 
Some of the new planets were awful. One in particular: it was orange and green with perfectly gray rock formations. It displayed a distinct lack of understanding of how to light 3D graphics. What color can the actual rocks be if they appear perfect 128-128-128 neutral gray when receiving reflected light from bright orange and green features? Such a thing cannot exist in the natural universe. Only in amateur 3D renderings.

I give them props for taking the time to give us an Enterprise that was accurately shaped and proportioned. And they didn't give up on the nacelle effect until they had improved it from the cartoonish early efforts. Too bad they didn't fix the mapping to eliminate the extra window that breaks through one of the yellow hatches on the bottom of the primary hull. I see it every time. And they made the whole ship too neutral a gray.

YMMV.

M.
 
I've gone back and forth on the Remastered version (my DVD sets are the originals), largely because I have bad feelings about what Lucas did with the Star Wars Special Editions. (When I showed those films to my kids, I pulled out my VHS copies!) That being said, the Remastered is growing on me...I saw "The Doomsday Machine" recently and thought the new CGI was interesting (the remastered Fesarius in "The Corbomite Maneuver" was nice too). I still have to decide if I want to invest in a new Blu Ray box set, however ;)
 
Could you give a little more context on which version is found with which series/product?

Sure,
The top picture says CBS Digital. ;) That's the CBS Digital Enterprise with the original 11 footer on top. I believe it was their "first version" which was quickly altered after much complaining from Trek fandom.
The second picture says Star Trek Continues. ;) That's the Star Trek Continues Enterprise with the original 11 footer on top. The Star Trek Continues Enterprise mesh was built by Pierre Drolet and animated by Doug Drexler.

The point of the side by side was to demonstrate how flat, colorless and cartoony the digital versions look next to the real deal.

:)
 
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