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Poll Do you prefer the digitally remastered Enterprise?

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  • Yes

    Votes: 44 32.1%
  • Nope

    Votes: 66 48.2%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 6 4.4%
  • What remastered Enterprise?

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • I'll take any version I can get

    Votes: 20 14.6%

  • Total voters
    137
Strangely, when I had an SD CRT TV, I thought the "remastered" CGI effects looked pretty good. But watching in HD, I think they generally look like rubbish, and I would rather see the originals.

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I will take any version I can get. I supported the decision to digitally remaster Star Trek back in 2006. My hope was that The Animated Series would also get new animation. Also do the same thing for the Computer Games. That has not happened, yet. I still hope. Still after having seen the new version a couple of times now, I see myself going back to the original version from now on.
 
The digitally remastered Enterprise looks like shite. Of ALL of the effects to be remastered/redone/whatever ... the Enterprise was not the one to go cheap on. It's super embarrassing to look at. Hollywood blows so much smoke up everybody's ass about how CGI's indistinguishable from Live-Action, that they've kind of lost their objectivity on it. And these redo's came out at a time when this sort of crappy animation was inexcusable. But they patted themselves, and eachother, on the back and they unleashed this shite on us, anyways, all proud of what they'd done.
 
One of the biggest errors is right there in the menu, the first thing you see. The top edge of the E's saucer is sharp, but the rendering is shaded on the bow as if it curves. The ship slide gracefully toward the camera with majestic music, and I'm going "did they set something wrong in the smoothing of the angle?"
 
They have the remastered version on Netflix and I was a bit disappointed when I noticed it. Its not so much that I disagree with the idea, but I like to watch Star Trek with all of its 60's greatness, including the silly models and bad effects. These were products of the time, and I rather enjoy watching the progression from that to what we got in TMP and beyond.
 
I like the silly models! I think there is some great artistry in it which is why I was saying I prefer the original to the remastered. And I was thinking more of the models of the cities/etc. than that of the Enterprise herself. She is, of course, a beaut.
 
I would hardly call the 11 footer Enterprise a " silly model."

It was a silly model when I was four years old, as I had the mistaken impression that the ship wholly comprised the few sets that we saw, the crew was only a handful of people, and most of the saucer section was actually the bridge. And there were no rockets!
 
I like the silly models! I think there is some great artistry in it which is why I was saying I prefer the original to the remastered. And I was thinking more of the models of the cities/etc. than that of the Enterprise herself.
Other than the small model of the sky city of Stratos in "The Cloud Minders," I can't think of any TOS episode that used miniatures (as opposed to matte paintings) to represent cities or buildings.
 
Other than the small model of the sky city of Stratos in "The Cloud Minders," I can't think of any TOS episode that used miniatures (as opposed to matte paintings) to represent cities or buildings.

In "The Menagerie" you can see miniature buildings out the window of Mendez's office, as well as the window in Pike's hospital room.

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Let's not forget what can be seen outside Thomas Leighton's window in "Conscience of the King" (I'll bet there are yet other examples)...
 
Well, now I am not sure; here it is at the 1:30 mark:

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Man, that cgi looks cartoony.

Well, I knew you wouldn't pass up an opportunity to say that, haw haw!

As for what's outside the window, supposedly it's the same as what was used to depict Mohave in "The Cage". And per for following website:

http://www.freemars.org/mnfan/MNSFS/2007-11-ST-Menagerie/

"In Roddenberry's utopian vision, parts of the Mojave desert became glittering cities, surrounded by vast, green parklands. These idyllic parklands were the setting for Captain Pike's illusory picnic with Vina. Ironically, Star Trek rarely visited future Earth because it would have cost too much to show it on film. One tiny exception was this skyline in Pike's dream. In the original scene, filmed in 1964, the futuristic city of Mojave was represented by a subtle series of tiny cutout buildings, seen briefly in the distance behind Pike's picnic scene."
 
That still looks like a matte rather than cutouts.

Mojave/Planet Q was a painting, but technically it was a cyclorama, not a matte painting.

Edit: JTB "I always thought it was just a painted backdrop at the back of the set."

That's right, that's what a cyclorama is.
 
^Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was painted if it was still a cyclorama, I thought that might just be the "screen" that is lit for blue sky, etc.
 
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