Do you like ENT or not,why?

[somebuddyX]

I like Enterprise but it's with some caveats.
The first two seasons of Enterprise really disappoint me but they also have about 9 episodes I really enjoy including one of my favourite Borg episodes. It's too tame, recycled, stretched out plots, half thought out arcs.
The third season is ok but I remember tuning out on a bunch of episodes like Caveman Planet and Cowboy Planet.
The fourth season I quite like but there's a couple I still haven't seen.
I don't really have problems with the cast, just in the way they were written (or not written - Mayweather) and that we didn't see much of the NX-01 crew other than the main guys. Archer could be a moron a lot and there's a naivete to his actions , and the mission, that I feel came more from bad writing than genuine inexperience.
I like the ship a lot. I hate the shuttlepods. I'm not a fan of all the tech that's basically renamed versions of what we've seen in the other series like hull plating or phase cannons. I never liked shields down to x% in the other series let alone hull plating pulling the same shit.
It has a bad ending but I think that episode could have had potential with a rewrite and rethink. "Deconstruction of Falling Stars" from Babylon 5 has a similar template and I think works well.
It's probably going to be the first series that I see every episode of.

 

[StarMan]

Checked out somewhere in season 2. Revisited the show after it was cancelled and enjoyed S3 for the most part. Some of S4's mini arcs were solid.

Ultimately, I think the formula needed a much bigger shake-up.

 

[FederationHistorian]

Yes. But that’s largely because I now understand what was going on behind the scenes and why the show never lived up to its potential.

Before there were lots to not like.

Having to fit the show into continuity. No one is in any real danger for half of the show. The awkward comedy. The uninspired soundtrack for the majority of its run.

Half the cast is an afterthought. Not just as characters (they barely ever evolve their personal lives), but the relationships they form with other members of the crew, even though they should be the tightest knit crew ever seen.

There was definitely a lot of filler in S1, S2, and half of S3; a lot of those episodes could have been rolled up into a single story. And the Temporal Cold War should have been its own series. Even S4 I remained ambivalent about for years; I would not have minded a genuine follow up on the Suliban in that season, considering how central they were to the show in the first couple of seasons. Nor would I have minded a major crew shakeup at the beginning of that season. Its wild we never got a single visit to Denobula despite this being a new species never seen on other shows before that only had a handful of appearances. But it was though that answering the issue around Klingon foreheads was more important, when all that needed to be said was that they are an empire with many different species living in it.

And of course, the finale, where its greatest sin is that its lazily written. All the pieces needed were there, it just needed a rethink.

At the same time, there were stories in S1, S2 and S3 that would have made for wonderful two part or three-part episodes (Valakis, Vissians, General Gosis & cultural contamination) or recurring arcs (early Starfleet, the crew’s lives before the NX-01, visiting other human colonies, space boomers). The Vulcan arc (even though many did not like how they Vulcans were portrayed in the beginning) was a masterpiece worth of DS9. "Observer Effect" was a masterpiece worth of TOS or TNG.

The cast, as well as the stage hands, did the best they could with what they had to work with. Considering all the stupid ideas coming from above and all the ideas being left on the cutting room floor.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

another reason I like ENT so much is that it is, to date, the most recent onscreen appearance of my favorite actor, Vaughn Armstrong. (It was IAMD where he played mirror Forrest)

 

[Nerys Myk]

I’ve like Enterprise since day one. It was close in feel to TOS and I love TOS, it was number three in my trek show ranks for a long time. Beating out TNG and VOY.

 

[Lucky]

Star Trek: Enterprise holds a special place in my heart as it is the first Trek series I was able to watch beginning to end when the episodes aired. I love the show, especially the fourth season. Minus the finale, it was one of the best Star Trek seasons of all time.

 

[1001001]

I do like ENT.

 

[Gary Bitchell]

I like the last two seasons, and the writing in those seasons featured some of the best Trek had to offer. Trip and T'Pol were some of the best Trek characters, and they did a great job fleshing out Vulcan,t he Andorians, and Phlox's species. The Xindi War was also a well-done arc, imo.

That said, Malcolm, Travis, and Hoshi suffered a lack of development that was criminal. And Archer... started as a bad captain and continued to be inconsistent at best and an ass at worse. One minute, he's screaming about the Vulcans refusing to interfere, then he's crying because Trip DID interfere with the cogenitor. Take some damn responsibility, Archer.

Then in the 3rd and 4th seasons, eh's Super Jesus Superstar Archer, worthy of Surak's katra? No, that plotline should have gone to T'Pol.

Anyway, I quite like the show, but it is the only Trek show I enjoy DESPITE THE captain.

The first two seasons are still bad, though a few standouts are pretty good.

 

[JoeZhang]

I'm indifferent to it - I don't watch enough to form a strong view - I remember watching the first few episodes when it aired and then... well nothing.

 

[Summer Solstice]

I liked it at the time and I like it even more now. The characters are interesting people that I'd like to be friends with if they weren't fictional.

 

[fireproof78]

I like the design language of the ship and uniforms.

 

[shapeshifter]

Loved it right out of the gate. I was a gusher defending it at length on st.com against the bashers. Ultimately they won, it died and went away.

To repeat an old anecdote... Years passed when suddenly my parents, who were among the bashers and always preferred Babylon 5 over ENT, asked to borrow my series DVDs. Afterwards they stated "This (the series) is how all Star Trek should be done." It won them over at last!

 

[Oddish]

It's not my favorite Trek series, but I was able to get through all four seasons, and there are some episodes I rewatch from time to time.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

At some point before the end of the year I’m going to pick up my marathon again.

@HopefulRomantic

When I do so, is it okay to resurrect my old thread or do I have to make a new one? It seems silly to start a fresh one, but I’ll abide by the forum rules.

 

[Hopeful Romantic]

^^ Thrilled to read you are up for the task of continuing your review-a-palooza!

In this instance, since your posts are the driving force of the thread, I think it's a good idea to have them all in one place. Take up where you left off in your original thread, and have fun! Looking forward to more!

 

[Orphalesion]

Do I like it?
No
Why?
I hate pretty much every single one of the characters. Also that temporal cold war stuff.

 

[Oddish]

Also that temporal cold war stuff.

This. I didn't really hate any of the characters, but what was done to a lot of them really sucked.

 

[Reanok]

Yes I like the Enterprise characters and the show still.

 

[TheFlutteringHorde]

No.

The memes and references are fun, but actually watching Enterprise? It's a long road getting from the mediocre beginning to anything that's actually really good. There's some halfway decent episodes in the first couple of seasons but they're all in between something dreadfully slow and boring or something dreadfully insane. The third season starts really poorly in my opinion. The hunt for the Xindi through the Delphic Expanse was pretty boring until you hit "The Shipment" and then again until you hit "Proving Ground" after which it stays pretty good with a miss or two. The fourth season starts out with a **** you to anyone watching to show and ends with one, but otherwise it's pretty good on the whole. I actually liked "Daedalus" a lot more on rewatch than I remembered the first time around.

Enterprise is a lot like the Star Wars prequels to me, it's fun to think about, fun to talk about, but not actually fun to watch. I'd love to see them do anything with the actors again though. As bad as it was there was far too much vitriol aimed at the cast and effects people for things that were beyond their control.

 

[DonIago]

I'd say the SW prequels kind of mirrored ENT, in that I liked AotC more than PM and RotS more than AotC, but all three had flaws. Similarly I thought ENT was getting progressively better, and S4 may have overall been 'good' (I haven't watched it in quite some time).

Perhaps its biggest crime was following the improvement arcs of TNG and DS9 at a time when viewing audiences no longer had the same patience for poor initial performance.