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Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

Is it?

  • Yes, that's the official word and it still fits

    Votes: 194 44.7%
  • Yes, but it's borderline at this point

    Votes: 44 10.1%
  • No, there's just too many inconsistencies

    Votes: 147 33.9%
  • I don't care about continuity, just the show's quality

    Votes: 49 11.3%

  • Total voters
    434
And any real world defense force would continue to do it. Shit, how many times have we had things in the heads of the characters over the years?
But that's biological augmentation, which is a big no-no in the Federation.

Burnham brings this up in episode 3 (or was in 4?)

Are you saying you want Discovery to ignore the canon?
 
At what point do we expect Star Trek to learn from its mistakes and move forward? Or are we eternally stuck in a loop of making the same mistakes over and over?

Why expect the visuals to be updated to 21st century standards if we don't expect the same from the writing?
I don't consider those things mistakes. I like the movies and episodes they came from.
But I am also not going to pretend they aren't plot holes I can drive a tugboat through. Just a show. its fine. If they do ANYTHING to explain why the spore drive doesn't get used again, it will be more explanation than these things got.
What exactly would you say you DO like of Star Trek?
 
But that's biological augmentation, which is a big no-no in the Federation.

The Denobulans use augmentation and were admitted to the Federation, we have "Unnatual Selection" (TNG) which has a Federation base committed to experimenting with DNA. There are other examples. Augmentation apparently isn't as big a no-no as you think it is.
 
Trek is full of this all the time. You either except it or don't OR if you're a DiscoDisliker you hold DSC up to a different standard.
I’m Discoskeptic. I don’t dislike it. But I would like a credible, creative in-universe reason why it all looks different - other than “that’s what they told us. They say it’s prime so I ain’t gonna question them”.

What does god need with a starship?

How do you (the generic “you”, not you personally lol) come to a definition of “continuity” and “lore” that ignores part of the established continuity and lore? Other than to avoid coming up with a creative reason why things look different (or why they might look the same), coming up with the idea of the “visual reboot” just seems like doing half the work.

It was Q this whole time, wasn’t it?
 
I'm not going to touch the other ships with a 10-foot pole, except for Discovery itself. The ship was designed in the '70s and looks like it could fit into the TMP Era.

The Enterprise was commissioned in 2245 and TMP is in 2272-ish. If the five-year mission ended in 2270 as per VOY's "Q2" and TMP is 2.5 years later, it mathematically can't be 2271 like the Star Trek Chronology says.

Discovery being launched in 2256 and looking so close to a TMP-ish design is pushing it a little bit (you'd think it would be a design from closer to 2270) but it was still chronologically launched after the Enterprise so, in-universe, the design fits between "TOS" and "TMP", as it was designed in real life. So I'm not bothered by it.

You have to think of the pre-refit Enterprise as a 2240s design, not a 2260s design.

You are right of course. I'm okay with Discovery too, though I much prefer it's original version over the version we have now.
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Aside from the Discoprise and Discovery itself, the only other Starfleet ship I like on the show is the Shepard Class. That has a nice TOS vibe to it. If it had the same nacelles as the Enterprise then it would be perfect.

The other Starfleet ships that we saw in the first two episodes are just too much of a radical departure for me to believe they fit in a pre TOS or even TOS time period. And the Klingon ships, I don't know what went on there.
 
I'm fine with the saucer, but I think the way rendered looks superior to the final show. I like the lighting too. And the azteching on the hull isn't overdone like it is in the show proper.
 
At what point do we expect Star Trek to learn from its mistakes and move forward? Or are we eternally stuck in a loop of making the same mistakes over and over?

Why expect the visuals to be updated to 21st century standards if we don't expect the same from the writing?
The second choice. Humans prefer comfortable mistakes to something new.
 
Yes, but the final version will sell way more pizza cutters in the long run.
Shouldn't we be hydrating them at this point? ;)
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