Yeah, he did want to a story in what we knew, lore wise.
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Yeah, he did want to a story in what we knew, lore wise.
Then we wouldn't have cloaking devices, Klingon ridge sensors and the Spore Drive.
Spore drive can easily be explained away.
And Enterprise did cloak first, the ship sailed 13 years ago. It doesn't make it right, but that retcon already happened, it isn't DSC's fault.
It really can't. Technology usually propagates once it has begun to be used. No way Starfleet would throw away a technology that gives them such a significant advantage that given to a single ship can win a war you've lost. It is bigger than the A-bomb.
This excuse just doesn't fly. Fuller was a fan of The Original Series. He knew what the status of cloaking devices was in TOS. This wasn't Rick Berman flubbing something because he knew nothing of TOS. This was someone intentionally contradicting it.
It may not have been Fuller's idea to bring in the cloak.
Starfleet is scrapping the drive because it requires a living pilot. This is brought up in the season finale.
Once again, they wouldn't have scrapped it. No way, no how. That simply isn't the way the world works. They would've worked towards limiting the negative effects on the pilot or figured a way to remove the pilot entirely. They would not have abandoned such an effective weapon.
How many lives has Starfleet lost in the name of exploration? Every advance in the history of humanity has human costs. I don't think the 23rd century would be any different. Which is where the show fails, is still doesn't feel like a universe inhabited by actual humans.
One might say, an adaptation
I'm not going to touch the other ships with a 10-foot pole, except for Discovery itself. The ship was designed in the '70s and looks like it could fit into the TMP Era.
The Enterprise was commissioned in 2245 and TMP is in 2272-ish. If the five-year mission ended in 2270 as per VOY's "Q2" and TMP is 2.5 years later, it mathematically can't be 2271 like the Star Trek Chronology says.
Discovery being launched in 2256 and looking so close to a TMP-ish design is pushing it a little bit (you'd think it would be a design from closer to 2270) but it was still chronologically launched after the Enterprise so, in-universe, the design fits between "TOS" and "TMP", as it was designed in real life. So I'm not bothered by it.
You have to think of the pre-refit Enterprise as a 2240s design, not a 2260s design.
He does good work. Really like his Masao Okazaki work.
Just like Nick Meyer.
Which means they would have continued to use human pilots. By the way, they gave themselves a huge fucking out, but didn't use it for some reason: simply running out of Tardigrade DNA.
Yet.
Using the Tardigrade DNA would be against the law. Michael brings that up in the episode where they come up with the idea.
That is also why the admiral said they were stopping it.
broken record is broken
Why isn't starfleet turning every borg cube and Dominion planet into an unstable Genesis planet?
Why didn't they mine the neutronium from the burned out Planet Killer hull and build a fleet of unstoppable ships?
If they already knew about energy damping weapons from the Whale Probe why didnt the have a way to combat it when the Breen did the exact same thing.
I wont even get into Khan's blood.
"It killed 20 of my people. Including my beloved wife. Seriously, I even put my blood in her IV and it didn't cure her, and that usually worked, fine. Don't look at me like that. Marla McGivers was very accident prone. Now tell me. Why are you here?"
Trek is full of this all the time. You either except it or don't OR if you're a DiscoDisliker you hold DSC up to a different standard.
You just said they scrapped it because it requires a living pilot. Which is it?
The living pilot requires to be augmented with Tardigrade DNA.
At what point do we expect Star Trek to learn from its mistakes and move forward? Or are we eternally stuck in a loop of making the same mistakes over and over?
Why expect the visuals to be updated to 21st century standards if we don't expect the same from the writing?
And any real world defense force would continue to do it. Shit, how many times have we had things in the heads of the characters over the years?
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