Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

There really is no more of this horse to flay.

 

IT WAS A JOKE.

Well, mostly.

 

Now, this is the most convoluted explanation I've ever heard and I'm the one who tried to (jokingly) reconcile the Kelvin and the prime timeline.

 

Your forgot that McCoy was able to detect the Kingon agent in TOS - The Trouble With Tribbles 24 years earlier:
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/42.htm

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And this really is one of a number of reasons I never really found STVI:TUC that good of a film.

- McCoy suddenly can't treat aliens.

-They have to get physical BOOKS to manually look up Klingon phrases. (Yes, EVEN IF direct use of their UT to transmit a reply might be recognized, you're telling me, their Computer system couldn't just display the phonetic phrases to Uhura in real time?)

- In the opening an Admiral actually asks "Are we talking about mothballing the Fleet" - as if Klingons are the ONLY aggressive alien species or star nation that is considered an enemy of the Federation - or has gone to war with them in the past.

The whole film is chock full of just plain ridiculous things that are only there because they're need for a scene or plot element that really doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

Just because he can detect that someone is a Klingon, doesn't mean he knows how to treat them.

 

If by it you mean medical stuff then it must be not that secretive so T'Pol can go to human hospital in San Francisco even before Federation time.

Sorry but if put that way then there is big regress in knowledge about Vulcans between ENT,DSC and TOS. This is impossible and not logical. TOS portrayal of Vulcans is simply deprecated by newer shows especially ENT and DSC. Vulcans were on Earth 200 years before TOS and knowledge level depicted in TOS about them is simply impossible.

 

I'm referring to just Pon Far.

 

So does making a Klingon action figure go "argh" and throwing it back in the box.

 

To be fair, the Klingons in DSC also went “argh”.

It’d be nice to see a scene in DSC where whoever the cmo ends up being scans a Klingon (maybe they capture one or its a defector or they just look up scans of L’Rell for kicks) and they say “I don’t even recognise the anatomy - the scans from the NX-01 a century ago don’t look anything like this! Something must have happened to the Klingon genome in the last hundred years...”

If they can work a cameo from Phlox in there, cool. If not I can live with it.

 

I don't think Denobulans live that long, he was already older than they thought in Enterprise.

And I honestly couldn't tell what they were saying. I thought Starfleet had a nefarious plan to defeat the Klingons by getting them hooked on toffee so they couldn't open their mouths long enough to give an order.

 

I thought it was peanut butter, but the effect was the same

Join my 2019 campaign for “Plain Klingon”.

I want my invented yet officially sanctioned sci-fi languages to be intelligible dagnabbit.

But seriously the Klingon dialogue was hard to watch - until Ash started talking Klingon in Qo’Nos at the end. I thought that was fine.

 

Knowing how fast a Klingons heart should beat and what their average body temp should be, is a loooong way from being able to actually treat them in critical situations.

And I would imagine that T'pol was treated by a Vulcan Dr. when she went to the "human hospital".
They wouldn't give us advanced tech to travel through space, I rather doubt they were willing to give humans access to their personal medical conditions beyond being able to recognizing the symptoms.

Dr. M'Benga probably had to study for several years on Vulcan, before he was allowed to treat one.

 

Sucks for McCoy that M'Benga didn't stick around until TUC.

On another note: M'Benga's someone I'd like to see in Discovery. He'd be a deep cut type of character who would slip under most people's radar. They'd think he's a new character.

 

Unfortunately he was busted back to medical school when he failed a crucial procedure while trying to help the CMO with that Andorian tonsillectomy.

 

It's all a matter of what information was shared in the first place. The Vulcan High Command could have requested Phlox's records to be sealed for all we know.

 

I wish I could triple LIKE this...


That's probably how he ended up being transferred to Vulcan to study.

 

But Andorians don't ha....oh...

 

No. I mentioned it in my same post.

But I'm glad to see we're still more or less on the same page when it comes to this topic.

 

I'm surprised nobody has come up with a "debooted" version of the Discovery uniform. Someone's idea of how the blingy blues look in the universe of velour sweaters and iron-on uniform patches.

 

This is where my hangup is at. I don't expect a view of the future now to in any way match the view of the future from fifty years ago. That goes for the look, the technology, the way people act, and see the world and the universe.

You can match up names and dates, but you can never match that feel. Which is why I treat Discovery as its own timeline.

YMMV.