Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

[Lord Garth]

Bleh. I deleted the post I put up. Reiterating what I said so people know what BillJ was quoting:

Whenever I try to picture Discovery as a TOS-looking show, I just can't. I think to myself, "Thank God they didn't go with that." Whenever I try to imagine what DSC would've been like if were of another era, I keep thinking back to the '70s. I look at the concept art, I look at the show which reminds me of the movies, and I keep thinking this feels more like it would be a '70s or TMP-era show. Even the nickname for it is Disco!

It's just not a "60s" show and imagining it as such, even though some might prefer it, just feels wrong to me. It's not Discovery.

I think that was the gist of it...

 

[Lord Garth]

This is where my hangup is at. I don't expect a view of the future now to in any way match the view of the future from fifty years ago. That goes for the look, the technology, the way people act, and see the world and the universe.

You can match up names and dates, but you can never match that feel. Which is why I treat Discovery as its own timeline.

YMMV.

I guess we can call Discovery the Happy Days of Star Trek. Or, to quote one of my friends when watching Happy Days, "I love the '70s version of the '50s!"

Or in my case, "I love the 2010s version of the 2250s!"

 

[Mudd]

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* I just like typing "Doomcock" because I'm a giggling, smirking 12 year-old boy. He's a loon, but an inspired and humorous loon.

 

[BillJ]

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* I just like typing "Doomcock" because I'm a giggling, smirking 12 year-old boy. He's a loon, but an inspired and humorous loon.

Doug Fitz is a name I don't miss seeing.

 

[Mudd]

I know.

Doomcock is definitely not Fitz or Fred Archer. Those dudes are so deadly serious that they're probably threats to the public safety.

 

[ITDUDE]

The Original Series

The Kelvin Universe

Discovery

TOS still the best

 

[Jesse1066]

TOS still the best

Christopher Reeve is the definitive Superman. Everyone else is just playing him.

 

[F. King Daniel]

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* I just like typing "Doomcock" because I'm a giggling, smirking 12 year-old boy. He's a loon, but an inspired and humorous loon.

That's not Leslie under the mask, is it?

 

[Mudd]

Christopher Reeve is the definitive Superman. Everyone else is just playing him.

Bullshit.

 

[Kane_Steel]

Christopher Reeve is the definitive Superman. Everyone else is just playing him.

Well that's because he's the only Superman/Clark actor to actually 'act' onscreen. Superman is supposed to be a charismatic character but we've had wooden, emo performances post-Reeve, that audiences haven't resonated with.

This is why I don't buy that Superman is a character that doesn't translate well to modern film. It's because they haven't allowed for a compelling performer to make it work, the same way Reeve made it work in the 70s.

 

[Kane_Steel]

Bleh. I deleted the post I put up. Reiterating what I said so people know what BillJ was quoting:

Whenever I try to picture Discovery as a TOS-looking show, I just can't. I think to myself, "Thank God they didn't go with that." Whenever I try to imagine what DSC would've been like if were of another era, I keep thinking back to the '70s. I look at the concept art, I look at the show which reminds me of the movies, and I keep thinking this feels more like it would be a '70s or TMP-era show. Even the nickname for it is Disco!

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, if they set Discovery in 2275 (perhaps after TMP), fans would have been far more accepting of it aesthetically.

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You could do a modern TV series with the TMP aesthetics but improve the 70s uniforms. Perhaps even keep the Disco ones.

It's also a time period in Trek history we don't know much about, Wrath of Khan is still 10 years away. You could do so much without screwing up continuity.

Kirk, Spock and friends are all still out there, but the show doesn't have to worry about being a prequel to TOS now, and the Ralph Mcquarrie designs are tailor-made for this time period.

 

[fireproof78]

It's also a time period in Trek history we don't know much about, Wrath of Khan is still 10 years away. You could do so much without screwing up continuity.

Technically, TOS is 10 years away too

 

[Reece L101]

I think in my opinion it would suit the other timelines because all the other Star Trek shows now look very old fashioned and ancient except for Enterprise and Discovery.

 

[BillJ]

Technically, TOS is 10 years away too

"The Cage" isn't.

 

[fireproof78]

"The Cage" isn't.

And? I don't put "The Cage" in to TOS category. The Cage is just The Cage to me.

 

[BillJ]

And? I don't put "The Cage" in to TOS category. The Cage is just The Cage to me.

CBS disagrees with you, as they've included "The Cage" as part of pretty much every TOS release. Including the syndication/streaming package.

 

[fireproof78]

CBS disagrees with you, as they've included "The Cage" as part of pretty much every TOS release. Including the syndication/streaming package.

I thought we had long established that no one cares what CBS' thinks until it is relevant to win a canon debate?

 

[Jinn]

CBS disagrees with you, as they've included "The Cage" as part of pretty much every TOS release. Including the syndication/streaming package.

APPEAL TO AUTHORITY!

Sorry, I wanted to do that too, just once

The question wether "The Cage" is TOS is rather interesting and obviously depends on how you define The Original Series. On the one hand it is the original, but it also wasn't broadcasted as part of The Original Series. But it also has the same logo as TOS has, just "Star Trek". So, personally I count it as TOS, mostly for convenience.

 

[BillJ]

I thought we had long established that no one cares what CBS' thinks until it is relevant to win a canon debate?

Just having a bit of fun. You can consider it part of Lost in Space for all I care.

 

[Kane_Steel]

And? I don't put "The Cage" in to TOS category. The Cage is just The Cage to me.

To you.

Plus TOS still set up a lot of events happening around STD's time.

The 2270s after TMP, before TWOK, is a blank canvas.