Do people go to the holodecks to have sex
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"Take me out to the Holosuite" convinced me that they're magic. Two dozen people or so, in one small room, and it can make it seem the size of a baseball field, with people on opposite sides maintaining their own points of view? It's either magic, hypnotic, or a TARDIS.
In a good deal of science fiction, the idea is that advanced humanity is much more open, liberal and casual about this particular impulse, having "evolved beyond" the taboos and strictures that currently exist. I think such a concept was shown in "Logan's Run," but it's been a while since I saw it.
Roddenberry had something like this in mind with TMP, as he wanted to depict a society with casual nudity and an occupation called "love instructors."
Obviously, such ideas couldn't be fully expressed in TV shows and movies that aimed to be "family friendly" by twentieth-century standards.
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On reflection, I don't think I could have sex in the holosuite unless it was with another humanoid (and it would have to be humanoid, I'm not that enlightened). No matter what fail-safes I put in I'd be too worried that it was being recorded somehow. I mean, Star Fleet would have to keep some sort of control of what goes on, wouldn't they?
Of course they do. Either as couples (or triads or whatever) to take advantage of doing it in some cool environment. Or Tuvok-style for the relief of Ponn Farr. Or Barclay-style for the guy who has, shall we say, difficulty relating with others. Yes the deck cleans up after itself. And as far as replicated food goes, I'm reminded of a quote from Arthur C. Clarke that "not even God could tell the difference between one carbon atom and another".
I do think there are some restrictions on starfleet holodeck programs as to content, but that Quark's stuff was a little more, perhaps a lot more.unregulated.
I do think there are some restrictions on starfleet holodeck programs as to content, but that Quark's stuff was a little more, perhaps a lot more.unregulated.
Why? Quark was maintainung several holosuites, each one relatively small, as far as we've seen them. There could be different sized ones. I assume Vic's was running in a larger one than most.
But the baseball game could easily have been done by multiple network linked suites.
Each holosuite would then simulate the players in the other ones in real time.
Come to think of it, with magic subspace com links you could even link up a suite at home and a holodeck on a ship on the other side of the federation to meet and have sex with your spouse if you are not so lucky to have them with you. Not every ship is the Enterprise, abd not every family would want to go into deep space all the time.
Who would not want that?
And as far as "sentience" goes, I think Moriarty was, because of Geordi's particular instruction (although that should have set off some major alarm bells). The Doc and especially Vic, I'm not too sure about. Vic was merely programmed with awareness of his status as a hologram, not exactly the same thing.
People are standing on treadmills in their own compartmentalized perspective bubble with specialized inertial dampeners. So when two people walk far enough apart that they shouldn't both be able to fit in the holodeck, they are split into these separate compartments with light tricks to simulate a larger separation.
I always wanted them to do a holodeck story where somebody took advantage of this to beat an enemy. Like the enemy is standing on the other side of a holographic wall, but you have a non-holographic blunt instrument, so you just walk far enough away from him to become compartmentalized and chuck the baseball bat, which appears to then transport across the wall and clunk him in the head.
I personally think that is interesting, and certainly a different take on the "evolved" sentiments that are some times expressed. So, the evolution is more a sociological one, which is something that I like exploring.
Given the fact that in "The Neutral Zone" Picard remarked that no one would ever think to misuse the com system, so there are no safeguards.
But, on the other hand, on VOY, the main computer is actively monitoring all thoughts of the crew, perhaps the safe guard is knowing what people are thinking
Can you imagine in true life the wait time to get access to the holodeck given the crew to deck ratio...
^ Perhaps only officers above a certain rank level are allowed to use the holodeck?
Maybe in future, it's perfectly normal to have virtual sex and, thus, there's no stigma and nothing to hide because noone cares or judges who you fuck or whether who you fuck is real or imaginary.
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