Not even a fully trained Sith, more a Sith wannabe, a Darth Vader fanboy....
How did Luke do against the real deal?
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Not even a fully trained Sith, more a Sith wannabe, a Darth Vader fanboy....
How did Luke do against the real deal?
Okay let me say this then. After beating Kylo and then going for training off Luke. Where can Rey go as a hero. Luke lost to Vader quite badly and then went for training. We were rooting for him to do better and save the galaxy. Rey has already beaten him once and then went for training. He was injured yes but as I said she was untrained. Let's compare her to Finn. Finn is a terrible storm trooper. He gets beaten in melee and isn't that good at shooting down the ties while Poe flies the ship. He has room to grow. He can come back and do better. When you are deliberately planning a trilogy why did they not leave her room to grow?
I thought that was a storm trooper requirement.
He was beaten by Vader and went to talk to Yoda for a couple of minutes before he died.....again, not seeing the cognitive bias?
Well, as I said I have no clue, but what has that to do with her being or not being a Mary Sue?
As I've said she doesn't tick every box on the list but she ticks enough. If she looks like a duck, talks like a duck, etc etc
Me, the outhousers.com, bleedingcool.com. Enough that I stand by my point. Though if you want I'll go back wes. The thing is that Wolverine serves my purpose because he shows that being a Mary Sue isn't about your origin its about the current writer.
Uh he lost. He trained and then had to appeal to the good inside of him to not die. I think that's kind of my point
The fact that he didn't win. This is my key point here. He went up against a sith a lost.
Okay I'm clearly doing poorly and so I apologise. The link is poor writing. Poor execution of your lead character. If you have her come in kick ass and take names and make her too strong on her first outing you are left struggling in part two and three. Think on the end of the Matrix. Neo ends the film and is superman basically. Oh wait we're now doing two and three. They quickly nerfed his powers to give us a movie. Though interestingly enough he's still been called a mary sue for these last two movies. Again not as a debate but as a quick put down for the two poor follow ups to an original movie that was well liked by most if not all.
Personally, I have a harder time with Kylo. He seems weak when he fights Rey but clearly has had much more training. This would be fine because we could assume that he does not have the same gifts with the force. But then he outsmarts Snoke, implying he is extremely powerful. The only way I get around this is to just say that learning the force is like many other skills I've had to learn. Improvement is not always gradual, but sometimes comes in spurts as you make key discoveries. Different people learn in different ways and at different rates.
I also wonder if we are going to have some mysteries about Rey revealed in the third movie. Maybe it will all make sense in the end.
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Which one Empire or TFA. If the former I suggest you give it a watch if the later, then don't bother. In case you can't tell I don't think it's very good.I haven't even watched the whole movie, I'm just reiterating what other people say.
Yet this gives him something to work toward. A goal. An arch. We can see him improve over the story. There is thus investment from the audience as we go along with him on this journey.I thought that was a storm trooper requirement.
Shhhh, ...you're not supposed to say it out loud. Follow Obi-Wan's example. Just say, "only imperial storm troopers are so precise" , despite the evidence to the contrary.I thought that was a storm trooper requirement.
This is the problem. Had it been a one and done movie we could have our lead beat the bad guy and call it a day as the credits roll. Yes the final fight was a bit sudden and almost dues ex but endings are hard lets all move on. Also I wouldn't count on JJ to reveal anything going off his track record. He doesn't strike me as great at planning out. I refer again to his ted talk on mystery boxes. He doesn't plan twists like M Night he just plans mysteries and hopes that will be enough.
Don't forget he wanted them to escape.
Yes I know that doesn't explain them getting beaten by teddy bears. Nothing explains the teddy bears. Oh wait yes it does. Money and or merchandising.
Well, for one Kylo too can grow, both in power and in character, so that she too has to grow in order to fight and eventually actually win against him.
Of course I watched "The Empire Strikes Back", but I only ever saw pieces of "The Force Awakens" and didn't really like them. Then again I loved "The Last Jedi", so maybe I should revisit it.
Only First Order Storm Troopers are so precise!
1) Become an actual Jedi
2) Become a political leader of the Resistance
3) Become a military leader of the Resistance
4) Create a new Jedi Academy
5) Take over Han's spot on the Falcon and set off on wacky adventures
6) Kill Kylo Ren
7) Join Kylo Ren (TWIST!)
Seems the only limits placed on Rey are determined by the limits of your imagination.
Also, redeem Kylo!
Ya know, we're talking about all this realism as to whether or not Luke or Rey could do the things they did in their respective trilogies, but I'd like to point out one thing: This is a film franchise where we have a mystical magical force that controls everything, laser swords that stop mid air despite nothing physical stopping them, a giant sentient, walking, growling hairy beast, sentient robots, an old man who can shoot lightning out of his fingertips, a dude with a rocket pack that works (presumably), walking teddy bears, a giant crystal powered superlaser, oh, and hyperspace.
Why can't we accept the fact that Luke and Rey are able to do the things they can when we can accept all of that?
Why can't we accept the fact that Luke and Rey are able to do the things they can when we can accept all of that?
Correct, in fact most of her character growth will/could center on her taking the leadership role(s) vacated by our Dearly Departed Heroes and/or significantly impacting the growth/development of other main characters. That's nothing too extraordinary.
I don't think it's a good sign that you have to up your villain in order to provide any threat to your lead. Case in point Darth Vader who was enough to stand for an entire trilogy. If you have to keep upping his power level you are either in Dragonball Z or one step away from the prequels who literally just swapped them out per movie.
I would have said that TFA is the better of the two movies. Though don't take that as a glowing compliment. However I think that as long as you know Han dies you don't need any super crucial plot points to follow along. Though clearly seen as you have enjoyed the TLJ I just meant as in I don't think there's anything else lurking in there that will come back that might leave you puzzled. If you get my drift.
Honsetly, one of the thinks I wished had happened in "The Last Jedi" was Rey joining Kylo and balancing each-other's light/dark stuff out. Like, no one goes full evil or full redemption but both become kinda "grey Jedi". But yeah, maybe it's good that I'm not the head writer
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