It was meant as a joke to being with, but okay.
Discovery Size Argument™ thread
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It was meant as a joke to being with, but okay.
Not going to get any argument here - although the argument could be made that thematically the DSC Bridge is a manifestation of Lorca's oversized ego, in practical terms the Bridge is functionally absurd
Does anyone think that the changes will officially attibuted to the Temporal cold war?
Whether They do or not, that's my Head-canon reason for things looking physically different.
With the over-all history pretty much staying the same.
(and it's a good enough reason for me, if They decide to fiddle with some of the historical aspects as well)
As far as I'm concerned "DISCOVERY's" Universe is slightly off-center of The Original Series Universe and I don't really expect the two to converge, no matter what the Producers say.
Well, that was my reason for ENT not making any sense... But I doubt it would become official.
Even ENT never bothered to follow up on the TCW stuff, so the idea that Discovery will seems a little far-fetched.
That said, it's kind of funny how Enterprise has been referenced quite heavily in the recent Trek productions - Admiral Archer's beagle, the Franklin and Macos in Beyond, the Defiant in the Mirror universe for example.
My headcanon uses divergent timelines to explain any discrepancies. It can't just be Annorex who hit upon the idea of meddling in the timeline...
That said, it's kind of funny how Enterprise has been referenced quite heavily in the recent Trek productions - Admiral Archer's beagle, the Franklin and Macos in Beyond, the Defiant in the Mirror universe for example.
My headcanon uses divergent timelines to explain any discrepancies. It can't just be Annorex who hit upon the idea of meddling in the timeline...
I think it's a perfectly valid headcanon excuse (although it probably only works in very broad strokes, because the Klingons are still totally incompatible). I used to argue tirelessly that ENT's temporal meddling let toward TOS rather than away from it, but to be honest the writers didn't know what they were doing. Branon Braga said ENT was an AU in one interview, stemming from First Contact, but the original premise and Manny Coto's season 4 clearly felt otherwise. It's like the Kelvin Universe, where 2009 Bob Orci insisted it was a timeline split in 2233, but by 2016 Simon Pegg was saying it goes back to the big bang.Whether They do or not, that's my Head-canon reason for things looking physically different.
With the over-all history pretty much staying the same.
(and it's a good enough reason for me, if They decide to fiddle with some of the historical aspects as well)
As far as I'm concerned "DISCOVERY's" Universe is slightly off-center of The Original Series Universe and I don't really expect the two to converge, no matter what the Producers say.
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Really, The Nimitz class is only 383m, it looked bigger than that.
It is pretty compact in design though.
The USS Europa really is a re-imagined USS Reliant, with smoother curves, and two additional warp nacelles replacing the Reliant's long, cylindrical phasers in the top bar, isn't it?
Maybe that's why I like her!
(As a model MUCH more than what was ever visible on screen btw!)
Maybe that's why I like her!
(As a model MUCH more than what was ever visible on screen btw!)
I consider myself a pretty big-ass Trekkie, and yet inconsistencies of scale, both in terms of the size of the ships and of the universe, have never really concerned me. They seem to be as big as they need to be. I think the Franz Joseph blueprints cemented in my head as the final authority, and the rest are just space apocrypha.
For me, either a close parallel universe to the PU or results of TCW.
Thank you for this. I've been trying to put this into words for quite a while. My only BUT is that this isn't the Enterprise. That's no excuse for the flaws, as it is still a ship of the line that sets the tone (for viewers) for the whole of Starfleet in this era. Not to mention how the other bridges we saw were more of the same, although not quite as bad, at least to my eyes. The real test will be what the Enterprise bridge looks like, though I won't be holding my breath. And I don't mean that as pearl clutching "It's not like the 60s anymore". I don't want 2010s Star Trek to look like 1960s Star Trek. But I don't think it would have killed the production designers to look at the history of Trek as an influence instead of something to run from* (while running toward generic sci-fi big/empty/blue).
*except a few props, which are fetishized into the opening credits.
Well I understand that ship size is sometimes a dice roll, but as somebody who builds the model kits, and likes a bit of consistatncy in his fleet size, throwing out well established size numbers from the past 50 years sucks.. All the Enterprises have a firmly set size.. The DiscoPrize having a 480 meter length which is Greater than the Excellsior's 467m is just a bad joke.
Even Polar Lights have to go to Ex Astris for there size information since cbs/paramount dont' know either. ( defiant and the Oberth and Bird of Prey) When I talked to the guy at the polar lights booth at wonderfest, my first question was about the assinine sizes for the disco era. He just shrugged his shoulders..
Even Polar Lights have to go to Ex Astris for there size information since cbs/paramount dont' know either. ( defiant and the Oberth and Bird of Prey) When I talked to the guy at the polar lights booth at wonderfest, my first question was about the assinine sizes for the disco era. He just shrugged his shoulders..
So then that eagle moss display from Germany that showed a relatively smaller enterprise compared to the other ships including Europa was not at all in scale
They actually don't, so long as the interiors are bigger than the exteriors.
Not an Enterprise, but the Discovery set designers have said the interiors fit, so far. They even said they made rough deck plans for the writers and other staff.
They acknowledged that there will probably be instances where a set wouldn't logically fit in the ship because of story reasons or building limitations.
They acknowledged that there will probably be instances where a set wouldn't logically fit in the ship because of story reasons or building limitations.
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