Discovery or Andromeda?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by BrotherBenny, Sep 9, 2020.

  1. Bollie74

    Bollie74 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Word, I couldn't get thru episode one of Andromeda as his acting was so bad... And that's after watching Shatner for 40some years....
     
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  2. fireproof78

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    Funny. Sorbo was the only thing making it watchable for me.
     
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  3. dupersuper

    dupersuper Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I liked Sorbos acting fine, it's just sad that the actor lost his mind.
     
  4. ananta

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    I actually rewatched a couple of episodes of Andromeda recently and found it almost unwatachable. The pacing was always off for me, weak writing, poor directing, the look and feel was trashy, and Kevin Sorbo a terrible lead. I much preferred Farscape back in the day, it had a similar range of characters but the character development and writing was infinitely better.

    No matter how season three of Discovery goes, it is bound to be far more watchable than Andromeda.
     
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  5. BrotherBenny

    BrotherBenny Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Where is the canon that it was the Romulan star that went Supernova?

    That doesn't make sense if it propagated across subspace to destroy the Romulan system. It was clearly NOT in the Romulan system.
     
  6. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    It's said repeatedly in star trek: picard that it was the romulan sun that went nova. The events of star trek 2009 were retconned.
     
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  7. BrotherBenny

    BrotherBenny Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yeah, I forgot about that. ‍♂️
     
  8. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Commodore Commodore

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    Honestly I enjoyed the universe and world building of Andromeda more than Star Trek in some aspects and thought that Andromeda had some very interesting characters. I really like that sense of mysticism and all.
    As for Sorbo...I take him over Bakula any day, but I remember that I've read that he was one of the reasons for all the behind-the-scenes drama that ultimately caused the show to become the rather medicore overall product it is now.

    I still say even flawed as it is Andromeda is a much better show than Stargate, for example.
     
  9. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    Bakula has the reputation of being one of the kindest guys in Hollywood, especially when it comes to his treatment of the little people.

    Sorbo is racist, homophobic asshole.

    There is no comparison.
     
  10. DonIago

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    Source?
     
  11. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    Everytime he opens his mouth?

    The clips aren't hard to find.
     
  12. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Then it should be easy enough to link me to one. :p

    Wikipedia mentions that he's religious but says nothing about racism or homophobia. Just saying, I did do a little looking around.
     
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  13. fireproof78

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    Cool. Doesn't mean I enjoy his acting.

    But, I'm glad he's a nice guy.
     
  14. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Kevin Sorbo Racist
    Kevin Sorbo Homophobic
     
  15. DonIago

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  17. RAMA

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    As has been pointed out already, cut from the same cloth.

    Certainly, there are differences, the UFP was a victim of an outer disaster rather than decay from within as in Andromeda. Discovery is less "Flash Gordon" pulp than Andromeda was. I'm almost certain Andromeda's budget was $800-1 million compared to Discovery's $8.5 million. My impression from only watching about a quarter of the series was it was pretty cheesy.

    Also, if you want to get technical, the fall of big sci-fi "empires" trope started with Asimov's "Foundation" series which used "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" by Gibbons as it's basis, so quite a long time ago.

    RAMA
     
  18. RAMA

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    I actually had some good discussions with Robert Hewitt Wolfe about the show before he left, and he always told me to be patient it would get better. Sorbo apparently thought his stories were too dense and complicated.

    RAMA

     
  19. DonIago

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    I really wonder where it might have gone if RHW had stuck around.

    The show wasn't entirely bereft of good episodes, it was just weighted strongly towards the cheese.

    Anyway, it's not as though more contemporary Trek tends to have bragging rights for their first couple of seasons either.
     
  20. TimeIsAPredator

    TimeIsAPredator Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Andromeda was really poorly executed and it's only redeeming feature was the storyline so no harm seeing it used by a better production.

    And it's not a unique story anyway it's just the post apocalyptic story with spaceships and haseve been done by trek a little with Smiley and the MU
     
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