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Discovery is being “overshadowed" by The Orville

Not really - again:

- Burnam is a child whose parents (who are in Starfleet) are killed on Vulcan territory.
- Sarak IS the Vulcan Ambassador to Earth AND is married to a Human
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IDK - but if there was a Human child on Vulcan needing surrogate parents, Sarek seems the loigcal choice here.
Indeed. I really think there are a wealth of story options and doors that can be explored by having her be Sarek's ward, and him be tasked to do so because of his ambassador status. As Sarek would say, "Taking her in was...logical."
 
There are no other humans on Vulcan?

It could be great, I still hold out hope. But it feels like it is being done to name check TOS.

Now, if there is some kind of connection between the parents and Sarek, it would be a bit better.

There's ZERO doubt this was done to have a callback/touchstone - BUT until we get the backstory, if she had no other relatives she could be sent to - it's not as bad as some touchstoning done in past Trek outings (both TV and film.)
 
Not really - again:

- Burnam is a child whose parents (who are in Starfleet) are killed on Vulcan territory.
- Sarak IS the Vulcan Ambassador to Earth AND is married to a Human
^^^^
IDK - but if there was a Human child on Vulcan needing surrogate parents, Sarek seems the loigcal choice here.

Is it stated that Sarek is the ONLY Vulcan Ambassador to Earth? In any case, I could care less about the circumstances or reasoning for it. It ticks me off that they did it and significantly hurt the show for me. I don't even care if he calls her his ward or not. Nothing will convince me that this will be a good idea. What next? The teenage adventures of Jim Kirk and his Klingon cousin Klothtok? :brickwall:
 
Is it stated that Sarek is the ONLY Vulcan Ambassador to Earth? In any case, I could care less about the circumstances or reasoning for it. It ticks me off that they did it and significantly hurt the show for me. I don't even care if he calls her his ward or not. Nothing will convince me that this will be a good idea. What next? The teenage adventures of Jim Kirk and his Klingon cousin Klothtok? :brickwall:
I'd watch that, especially if "Sabotage" is the theme song ;)

While I doubt Sarek is the only ambassador, he is definitely the one consistently shown in the TOS era through the films.
 
I'd watch that, especially if "Sabotage" is the theme song ;)

While I doubt Sarek is the only ambassador, he is definitely the one consistently shown in the TOS era through the films.
I just wish they didn't connect Burnham to Sarek and by extension Spock. I've seen this cliche done badly once before with Spectre. I just fear it's going to be done badly with Discovery. I just hope I'm wrong because I am excited for Discovery minus the Burnham/Sarek/Spock connection. Here's to tomorrow. :)
 
I just wish they didn't connect Burnham to Sarek and by extension Spock. I've seen this cliche done badly once before with Spectre. I just fear it's going to be done badly with Discovery. I just hope I'm wrong because I am excited for Discovery minus the Burnham/Sarek/Spock connection. Here's to tomorrow. :)
If that's your only concern then I think it will be ok ;)
 
Without a derailment, who else might you select to be the bridge? No easier reason for a surviving NX-01 officer to appear, imo.
 
Without a derailment, who else might you select to be the bridge? No easier reason for a surviving NX-01 officer to appear, imo.
I'm sorry (and I actually thought it was stupid WAY BACK when I saw the TNG pilot in 1987); but it's STUPID to have a 130+ year old Human former series character who just happens to be 'touring' a ship way out in space; and it would be equally stupid to see the face of some 130+ year old 'Admiral' from a former series still serving at a Desk job.

I hope they don't have any such 'Easter Egg' in the ST: D pilot.
 
Why do we need a character to be a bridge? Why can't the show simply stand on its own?
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Hopefully Bell made a similar deal with CBS in Canada.

Most likely, they did, but I won't be getting cable again just to see Discovery; I'd rather wait for CBSAA to come here instead.

Because these things are ruled by fads or fashions, not necessarily by some objective aesthetic. There was nothing wrong with the older James Bond movies ... I certainly found the Brosnan films enjoyable. And while the later Roger Moore films got silly in tone and content, the films after those were exciting and fun. That isn't to say the Daniel Craig films aren't great, they certainly have some of the best cinematography in the franchise, but I miss the whimsy Craig's films lack.

James Bond wasn't meant to be whimsical by Ian Fleming; he was meant to be serious when he does what he does, and that's why people don't regard the Moore films well. Craig's gotten back to that, but by being serious and human, and having less gadgets to use, IMHO.
 
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