L
Lord Garth
Guest
There's a different in fandom in the late-00s that hasn't been recognized by most people yet.
What am I talking about? Everyone, to use a hyperbole, expected the equally hyperbolic MAJOR REACTIONS!!!!1111 to the re-casting of the recasting of Kirk and Spock and now the set-designer for ST XI expects as much for the Enterprise.
I'm not saying that those people don't exist but their not as great in number as percieved. What does this have to with the difference between fandom in the 90's/early-00's and fandom in the late-00's?
During the 90's and the first half of this decade you had fans that were becoming jaded. You had fans who were reacting to things in Star Trek that they, for the first time for many, didn't like. This is speaking outside of the TOS/TNG split of course.
I'm sure that during the early-90's and even the mid-90's there were many fans who didn't expect they'd ever come across a Star Trek they didn't like if they liked both TOS and TNG. They anticipated DS9, they anticipated VOY, they thought it was great that TNG was going into movies.
For the first time during the latter-half of the 90's, the disassociation from loving all things Star Trek still felt new to these people. The ones who didn't like DS9, the ones who didn't like VOY, the ones who were unprepared for how much they wouldn't like the TNG movies.
This spilled over into ENT during 2001. There were people unprepared for what the 22nd Century actually ended up being portrayed as.
What's the common thing? The "upsetness", if you will, was still fresh. These fans were only becoming jaded.
Now, with ST XI, people were remembering the 90's and early-00's thinking that reaction to ST XI would be to the same extreme and with the same intesnity as ENT or, before it, DS9 and VOY.
Admit it, the ST XI forum isn't anywhere near as bad as ENT was. Deep down you know it.
Yet there are people who dismissed ST XI from Day One. What's the difference between now and 2001?
It all goes back to becoming jaded. Once you already are jaded, then you won't care who does what to anything anymore. Once you expect that you won't like something, you won't become outraged that you don't. You won't become as furious anymore over the fact that you didn't get what you want. You'll become used to it.
The result? The reaction to ST XI because it's come out so much later than the late-90's/early-00's isn't going to be as passionate as the reaction to early productions that weren't approved of. These people have cooled off. The negative feelings aren't as fresh as they used to be and will level off as a result.
Meanwhile, the people looking forward to the new movie are looking forward to the first new Star Trek in a while and those on the fence will stay on the fence until the movie is released.
What about the arguments? I think those have come more out of habit than anything else. There are people who want to dislike each other and they will continue to whether they're talking about ST XI or not and will find some way to lay blame on each other somehow. What they're arguing about really has nothing to do with Star Trek at all, they could be arguing about anything and they would still have the same animosity towards each other because they've decided their not going to like each other period.
So the I think situation has evolved from what it was before but not too many people have pulled back enough to notice.
What am I talking about? Everyone, to use a hyperbole, expected the equally hyperbolic MAJOR REACTIONS!!!!1111 to the re-casting of the recasting of Kirk and Spock and now the set-designer for ST XI expects as much for the Enterprise.
I'm not saying that those people don't exist but their not as great in number as percieved. What does this have to with the difference between fandom in the 90's/early-00's and fandom in the late-00's?
During the 90's and the first half of this decade you had fans that were becoming jaded. You had fans who were reacting to things in Star Trek that they, for the first time for many, didn't like. This is speaking outside of the TOS/TNG split of course.
I'm sure that during the early-90's and even the mid-90's there were many fans who didn't expect they'd ever come across a Star Trek they didn't like if they liked both TOS and TNG. They anticipated DS9, they anticipated VOY, they thought it was great that TNG was going into movies.
For the first time during the latter-half of the 90's, the disassociation from loving all things Star Trek still felt new to these people. The ones who didn't like DS9, the ones who didn't like VOY, the ones who were unprepared for how much they wouldn't like the TNG movies.
This spilled over into ENT during 2001. There were people unprepared for what the 22nd Century actually ended up being portrayed as.
What's the common thing? The "upsetness", if you will, was still fresh. These fans were only becoming jaded.
Now, with ST XI, people were remembering the 90's and early-00's thinking that reaction to ST XI would be to the same extreme and with the same intesnity as ENT or, before it, DS9 and VOY.
Admit it, the ST XI forum isn't anywhere near as bad as ENT was. Deep down you know it.
Yet there are people who dismissed ST XI from Day One. What's the difference between now and 2001?
It all goes back to becoming jaded. Once you already are jaded, then you won't care who does what to anything anymore. Once you expect that you won't like something, you won't become outraged that you don't. You won't become as furious anymore over the fact that you didn't get what you want. You'll become used to it.
The result? The reaction to ST XI because it's come out so much later than the late-90's/early-00's isn't going to be as passionate as the reaction to early productions that weren't approved of. These people have cooled off. The negative feelings aren't as fresh as they used to be and will level off as a result.
Meanwhile, the people looking forward to the new movie are looking forward to the first new Star Trek in a while and those on the fence will stay on the fence until the movie is released.
What about the arguments? I think those have come more out of habit than anything else. There are people who want to dislike each other and they will continue to whether they're talking about ST XI or not and will find some way to lay blame on each other somehow. What they're arguing about really has nothing to do with Star Trek at all, they could be arguing about anything and they would still have the same animosity towards each other because they've decided their not going to like each other period.
So the I think situation has evolved from what it was before but not too many people have pulled back enough to notice.