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Diet & Fitness Support Thread

Sometimes I find working out really frustrating. I try really hard and really put my back into it to get the best from my workout but on the way home I sometimes feel that I haven't achieved what I wanted to. Does anyone else get this odd sense of frustration, despite the fact that when you are in the middle of the workout you can't do more?

YESSSSS! I get that feeling a lot. But you have to remember that at the very least, you're working out. When I feel like I haven't had a good workout, that's what I do--think about how I'd feel if I hadn't done it at all. The I don't feel so frustrated with myself.

Anyway, I think over an hour of cardio is probably a good workout (!), even if it wasn't super-intense! Or maybe it was, but your endurance is getting better?
 
^I'm glad someone else feels the same way. I think you're right, I think that my fitness is just getting back to its usual levels. But, to do more is difficult from a time point of view or from a beat-the-boredom point of view! :brickwall:
 
I haven't been consistent the last year or more in my workouts, but I've re-dedicated myself. I'm "bulking up" right now, but doing so relatively "clean", I'm eating 4600 calories a day, and 4 meals. I plan on making that 5 within the next week. Currently I'm the heaviest I've ever been, having gained 11 pounds of muscle since I started lifting again, to a weight of 280 pounds. I'm taking 12 different supplements. I feel pretty good. :)
 
^Wow! You are more than 2 of me!

This'll be a long post, but I could really use some support and I have a very unique situation that I think needs some explaining:
As some of you may know (especially after my Misc. thread), I have type 1 diabetes. And I have bipolar disorder. Which is not a good combination.
I was in excellent health as a kid, with a health-nut mom and an active lifestyle -- prior to the presentation of the disease, that is, during which I lost 20 pounds and had to be hospitalized for two weeks. Once I was diagnosed (at age 12) and treated, though, I regained my general health. And since I was diagnosed I had pristine control of my weight and blood sugars.
Save for a spell of about 3 months when, at age 14, I developed diabulimia, that is. Diabulimia is an eating disorder unique to individuals with juvenile diabetes. Up to 80% of girls with type 1 diabetes develop eating disorders, which are really hard to treat because the standard treatment of anorexia and bulimia is to teach the sufferer not to obsess about food. Obsessing over food and weight is what causes eating disorders. But if you have type one diabetes you have to obsess over food and weight. A person with diabulimia manipulates her insulin doses to keep her blood sugar high. When your blood sugar is high enough to produce ketones you start losing weight -- fast. Really fast. A dress size in a week fast. From a size 10 to a size 2 in a month fast. Still, I regained control and kept it until age 21.
For the past three years I've been having trouble controlling my blood sugars, and I've gained 15 pounds. Now that I have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder I am working very hard on getting my moods regulated, and getting my diabetes back under control. But it's not easy, so I thought, Why not join in the support thread?
Most days I have very good control, but when I am so depressed that I can barely get out of bed or go to work, it is hard to keep my blood sugars stable (I don't have any problems when I am manic because I go crazy -- literally -- with my checking and medicating.) When I am depressed I either forget to eat for days on end, or go on a crazy diet of nothing but a box of chocolate creme Oreos all day long for a week, or a jar of olives and a bunch of bananas, or a pint of Ben and Jerry's for breakfast, lunch, and dinner -- basically whatever is laying about the place. This results in either a binge of 3500 calories (which is a lot for a 135 pound girl as opposed to 2/3 of RAMA's diet!), or a reasonable 1700 calories but coming entirely from sugars.
I am almost always physically active, even when depressed because I find long walks soothing. I walk home 4-7 times a week over the Williamsburg bridge, which is about 4 miles. Add to that the 5 miles an average New Yorker walks (which is probably about right for me -- it's 10 minutes to the grocery store, 10 to the train, up and down the stairs, round about town); and a job where I am literally on my feet all the time (I teach art and movement to 2nd graders; and hatha yoga for ten minutes each morning and an hour 1-3 days a week; I don't think exercise is a problem.
It's my eating habits that are the problem, but I'm not sure what to do to gain control. Even on good days my habits are out of whack. I'll go all morning without eating -- maybe a glass of tea -- and then eat my daily allowance of 1700-2000 calories from healthy food from 3 to 10 at night. If I eat something too starchy my blood sugar goes up and I feel miserable, but I do it anyway because I can't resist temptation.
I'm not at an extremely unhealthy weight, because I am a muscle-bound girl, but I do need to lose 15 pounds to be at my ideal weight (I'm 135 and 5'2") and for a diabetic losing even 5 pounds reduces blood sugars naturally.
I am terrified of gaining back the 5 pounds I lost so far, and feel the temptation to fall back into insulin manipulation. The 15 pounds that could take months to lose if I do it healthily (it is much harder for a diabetic to lose weight than for a healthy individual), well, I could lose that 15 pounds in as many days if I stop taking my insulin. And the best part is the more I sugars and carbs I eat the faster I'll lose the weight. Cookies and pasta and doughnuts and bagels will make me thinner, not fatter!
I just don't know what to do. The temptation is so strong that I relapsed a couple of weeks ago, for the first time since I was 14. I fell into a bout of depression. I was suicidal -- not actively so, like planning it out, but bad enough that I had to force myself not to jump in front of the train every time I was on the platform. I kept my blood sugar at 400 for 2 days, even though I felt dead tired, had unquenchable thirst, and a saccharin sweet taste always in my mouth. But my psychiatrist gave me an antipsychotic and I'm feeling much better. I came to my senses before I lost any weight or did any real damage to my body.
Today I visited my endocrinologist and she reinforced the fact that I need better control.

Anyway, that is where I'm at. Thank you very, very much for listening. I need support, but my friends have never had trouble with their weight and don't really understand. Maybe just checking in with others who are trying to get healthier will be the answer.
 
^Well, I don't have much experience in what you are going through except for a mother who suffers from depression so all I can do is off you my encouragement.

I think the fact that you have recognized your problem and know what needs to be done is half the battle and I think you deserve a lot of credit for that. :) Good luck!
 
I'm eating 4600 calories a day

I'm eating 1,500. You win! :lol:

It's good to get back in the groove, isn't it? I've been back in the groove since the New Year and it's as good for the head as the body for me.

thestrangequark I can't help with the complexities of your situation - weight loss and depression being big things for me and places I find it hard to go to. Still, I did read your whole post and I want you to know that although I can't really offer much advice I do share the struggle and the self doubt and that reckless feeling to do something anything to shed weight. Good luck. :)
 
Thanks guys. I know it is a weird and complicated situation, and that it is unlikely anyone will be in a position to offer advice, put support is more what I am after -- and that's what this thread is for, right? Perhaps checking in with you guys will help!

So the first check in? I was crappy today. I woke up with an excellent blood sugar, 108. I didn't eat anything until about three hours later though. And when I checked my sugar then it was 223. There is no reason it should've gone up, I didn't eat! This made me miserable. And I felt hopeless so I just messed everything up by eating a bunch of honey almonds and nothing else. I'm sure that really messed up my sugars. :(

I ate steamed broccoli and a small grilled chicken breast for dinner. I'm hoping the lack of carbs will help a little.
 
^I'd be interested to know too. The only think I take is whey protein and L-Glutamine.
 
RAMA - interested to know what sups you're on.

1. Multi-vitamin
2. CLA-Keeps fat cells from building et al:
http://thyroid.about.com/cs/dietweightloss/a/cla.htm
3. Ester-C-antioxidant
4. ZMA-post workout recovery mineral formula
5. Formadrol Extreme-anti-est/test booster
6. Havoc-Legal Anabolic,
aromatase inhibitor
7. Kre-Alkalyn-The most effective creatine complex (least conversion to creatinine)
8. Trib Extreme-Natural test booster
9. Cycle Support-Supports liver function, prostate, urinary tract, choleterol level health
10. Flaxseed caps-Antioxidant/lowers cholesterol
11. Glucosamine-MSM-Chondroitin-Shark Cartilage-Joint support
12. Green Tea-antioxidant, diuretic
13. Protein

In a few weeks I will switch off the Havoc and stay on Formadrol and trib for a few weeks, then finally onto a Superdrol and Methyl Masterdrol Liquid stack, or Haladrol 400. Then I'll get really huge muscle-wise. Btw I wouldn't recommend those for anyone under 21 or women.

RAMA
 
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Hi everybody! I had trouble finding my favorite ol' fitness chicken thread after the board re-boot ... I'm assuming this is the place to go now?

I'm currently training for a half-marathon. I did 9.5 miles on my last long run (woo hoo!) and it's all going swimmingly. I'm really looking forward to this race in May - the Wine Country Half Marathon. it's right here in my neighborhood through some of the most gorgeous scenery on earth. And at the end, there's free winetasting & massages for all the finishers! Gotta love it.
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I'm also doing the New Rules of Lifting for Women weight training program ... it's really challenging and it's definitely giving me muscles I never had before! I think it's helping with my running, too. I'm getting a lot fewer joint injuries, even with the really long distances.

I haven't been doing much in the supplement department ... Biotest's "Surge" post-workout mix on weight training days, and some Creatine. And a multi-vitamin. I should probably start watching what I eat, though. Even with all this running (18-25 miles/week) I haven't lost any weight, and I wouldn't mind dropping 5 pounds or so. (I blame the wine! :p)

Anyway, nice to see y'all again. I hope everyone is meeting their personal fitness goals! :thumbsup:
 
^^ Hey, TJinLOCA!! Glad you're back! After your post, mine is a bit anti-climactic. I ate Chinese for lunch and pizza for dinner and surprise surprise, I feel like TOTAL CRAP right now. All I want to think about eating is fruit and toast and drinking water. Ugh, now I know I'm older, when junk food is actually unappetizing. :alien:

I didn't run tonight either. After a great night last night with a nice 3.1 miler at a good pace (for me). Now I have to go tomorrow and Friday, which is going to be a time-crunch. My own fault, and hopefully this will teach me to be more vigilent with my time management skills!!

thestrangequark, my suggestion would be to look into finding a nutritionist, maybe someone who specializes in diabetics, to help you figure out how to get your eating where you want it to be. I only say this because it does seem like a complex situation, and one that is very unique to you. It also sounds like having someone with whom you can consult on a regular basis could be very beneficial to you, as talking about food and eating habits inevitably also means talking about emotional issues (for those of us who are emotional eaters, anyway!). And, of course, keep posting in the checkin thread here!

Ugh, I think I'm getting a food hangover. Yuck.
 
RAMA - interested to know what sups you're on.
2. CLA-Keeps fat cells from building et al: http://thyroid.about.com/cs/dietweightloss/a/cla.htm

Thanks for posting the link. I found the article quite interesting as I suffer from hypothyroidism.

One thing I found particularly interesting was this point:

Decreases abdominal fat-- Adrenal imbalances and hormonal shifts that are common in thyroid patients frequently cause rapid accumulation of abdominal fat, so this benefit could be quite helpful.

I wasn't aware of this side effect but it sure sounds familiar. My diet doesn't fluctuate very much yet I sometimes seem to go up a belt notch or two out of the blue. I may have to give this supplement a try.
 
^^ Hey, TJinLOCA!! Glad you're back! After your post, mine is a bit anti-climactic. I ate Chinese for lunch and pizza for dinner and surprise surprise, I feel like TOTAL CRAP right now. All I want to think about eating is fruit and toast and drinking water. Ugh, now I know I'm older, when junk food is actually unappetizing. :alien:
Hi gw!! I've missed you. And HEY, when did you start wearing green? :D Congrats!

Luckily for my diet, I have two family members (hubby & eldest daughter) who are absolutely committed to healthy eating right now, so there is nothing but really excellent food around (absolutely no junk food, and lots of fresh fruits & veggies, high protein snacks, etc.) I'm extremely susceptible to crap, but since they refuse to have it in the house, I'm eating good food too. :)

I'm running longer & longer distances, but I'm still slow as a glacier. :lol: My goal for the half marathon is to do it in under 3 hours, or around 13 min/mile. (Just call me The Flash!!) Meanwhile my husband is seriously hoping to do it under 1:45, or 8 min/mile. GAK! Needless to say, we don't run together very often.
 
^It definitely helps when the rest of your household are on a health kick too! Unfortunately, one of my roommies is a cradle-robber. She's 23 and her boyfriend is 19. He hasn't grown out of his teenage suburban boyhood. Our place is stocked up with mac and cheese, powdered mashed-potatoes, sunny d-lite, sugar cereals and the like. I think I'm the only one in this apartment who eats fresh vegetables!

I'm happy today. I kept my blood sugars in range all day.
 
...one of my roommies is a cradle-robber. She's 23 and her boyfriend is 19.
No, she's a cougar! Awesome. It's what I aspire to be, as soon as I find the right pool boy to draw into my web.

I'm happy today. I kept my blood sugars in range all day.
Good to hear!

I ran 3 miles last night in about 28:20, which is lightning fast for me. I have a feeling that if I could run a half marathon, TJinLOCA, we'd be about the same pace. 8 minutes per mile is, for me, a speed only reachable with mechanical help--ie a bike or a car. :lol:

After Wednesday's crap-fest, I'm getting back on track. Only good foods and lots of fruits (although I just remembered I forgot my carrots) packed for lunch today. Problem is, I'm going out after work tonight--how can I avoid eating something baaaaaaaad with my friends?! Send me your strength, fitness chickens!
 
Well I had a pretty good week. I went to the gym in the morning and evening on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday and once on Wednesday and Friday.

I've discovered that on days when I run in the morning and at night 8 hours of sleep is just not enough. I need at least 9 hours to function properly the next day.
 
...one of my roommies is a cradle-robber. She's 23 and her boyfriend is 19.
No, she's a cougar! Awesome. It's what I aspire to be, as soon as I find the right pool boy to draw into my web.

LOL! I'm 47 and my husband is 45 ... does that make me a cougar, or do I need a younger pool boy to qualify? :D

I'm happy today. I kept my blood sugars in range all day.
Good for you, tsq!

I ran 3 miles last night in about 28:20, which is lightning fast for me. I have a feeling that if I could run a half marathon, TJinLOCA, we'd be about the same pace. 8 minutes per mile is, for me, a speed only reachable with mechanical help--ie a bike or a car. :lol:
Oh good, I feel better! I have, once in my life, run 1.5 miles in under 12 minutes ... but I darned near died doing it. Now if I'm making under 11 min/mile I feel speedy!

I just finished 3.1 miles with a mile of interval work in the middle. Time to shower and dash to work! See you fitness chickens later ...
 
I've been away at a conference with work over the last couple of days. I find it difficult to stick to healthy eating and sensible consumption of food at these things. I ate too much but of good quality stuff on day one, day two, however, has turned to crap for me - biscutes, pastries, chocolate, the whole nine yards. I wonder why I find it so difficult to stick to my healthy life style when I'm away from home?

I am so looking forward to going to the gym tomorrow! :D
 
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