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Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens?

KyleCHaight

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In Picard's log entry, he claims that they couldn't survive without the mother creature which had taken over Commander Remmick.

Consider that there was no follow-up to this storyline during TNG, DS9, or Voyager, is it possible that when Picard and Riker killed Remmick, they also killed all the parasites everywhere, even on their homeworld? Perhaps the homing beacon that Remmick was sending had no one to receive it after his death?

Or, did the "kill the mother and the children die" method only work within the "collective" of parasites on Earth? If so, what about the starships and starbases that were also infected by the parasites? Did they all die as well?

I really wish they would have followed up on this story.
 
There is a (... say it with me now: NON-CANON...) follow-up in the DS9-Relaunch novels. It is a decent follow-up to the story and almost certainly the only one we'll ever get outside of fan-fic (to which I'm guilty of contributing a number of years back when I wrote my own follow-up and sent it to Paramount).
 
Re: Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens

KyleCHaight said:
In Picard's log entry, he claims that they couldn't survive without the mother creature which had taken over Commander Remmick.

Consider that there was no follow-up to this storyline during TNG, DS9, or Voyager, is it possible that when Picard and Riker killed Remmick, they also killed all the parasites everywhere, even on their homeworld? Perhaps the homing beacon that Remmick was sending had no one to receive it after his death?

Or, did the "kill the mother and the children die" method only work within the "collective" of parasites on Earth? If so, what about the starships and starbases that were also infected by the parasites? Did they all die as well?

I really wish they would have followed up on this story.

Originally, the Borg were going to be the "bugs". But having the bugs on a scale large enough to actually be a threat was too cost-prohibited, so we got the Borg we've all come to know and love and use as a crutch when the writers run out of ideas.

If you recall, at the end of the episode, there's a morse-like code as the E flys by. This was the homing beacon Remmik was sending out before he got hosed.
 
Re: Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens

I don't think they did. I always thought the "Queen" that was killed was the one sent to infiltrate The Federation, and that where ever that homing beacon was going there was going to be another "Queen" or even an "Empress" that gives birth to only "Queens" who are biologically subservient to the "Empress", and it's the "Queens" who make the parasites.
 
Re: Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens

Yes, I think they're still out there.

It was meant to be the enemy for TNG but the Borg took it's place. Notice the similarity in the ending for ENT:"Regeneration" and TNG: "Conspiracy." :vulcan:
 
Re: Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens

SonicRanger said:
There is a (... say it with me now: NON-CANON...) follow-up in the DS9-Relaunch novels. It is a decent follow-up to the story and almost certainly the only one we'll ever get outside of fan-fic (to which I'm guilty of contributing a number of years back when I wrote my own follow-up and sent it to Paramount).
Do you remember the title of that?
 
Re: Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens

Yes. They killed all of the aliens. End of story.
 
Re: Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens

Vanyel said:
I don't think they did. I always thought the "Queen" that was killed was the one sent to infiltrate The Federation, and that where ever that homing beacon was going there was going to be another "Queen" or even an "Empress" that gives birth to only "Queens" who are biologically subservient to the "Empress", and it's the "Queens" who make the parasites.

Vanyel,

Your idea makes perfect sense. After all, if you kill one ant colony queen here on good ole Terra Firma, that doesn't kill all ants everywhere!

But as to whether they'll return on screen? As another poster mentioned, aside from the non-canon DSN novel, they probably will never come back. Which is too bad.

I also want to note some superficial similarity between the "Conspiracy" symbiotic creatures and the Trill symbionts. As far as we know, there are no Trill symbiont queens -- they seem to exist independently and only bond with their humanoid hosts -- but who knows?

Red Ranger
 
Re: Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens

Once again, I'd like to point out that the signal sent out by Remmick probably wasn't a homing beacon or an invitation, but an abort command.

The critters had spent months in careful preparation. They had opened up an invasion corridor for their kin, and were holding it open by maintaining control of Starfleet Headquarters. They couldn't realistically hope to hold on to SF HQ for more than the "quiet weekend" they were speaking of. The invasion would have to be right then, or never.

When Picard was able to blow the whistle, it obviously went from "then" to "never". The invasion corridor was closed; any attempt to come through that way later on would be met with a deadly response. Which probably is why Remmick sent out that signal: "We failed, back off and start planning for something different."

Which appears to be what they did. And apparently they are still only planning, as of ST:NEM...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Re: Did Picard and Riker kill all of the "Conspiracy" aliens

gcmcdowell said:
SonicRanger said:
There is a (... say it with me now: NON-CANON...) follow-up in the DS9-Relaunch novels. It is a decent follow-up to the story and almost certainly the only one we'll ever get outside of fan-fic (to which I'm guilty of contributing a number of years back when I wrote my own follow-up and sent it to Paramount).
Do you remember the title of that?
IIRC, it's first realized in Mission: Gamma: Lesser Evil, and then comes to a head in Unity. There's also a short story in The Lives of Dax which deals with the Trill's first encounter with the creatures, and finally Worlds of Deep Space Nine Vol II: Trill deals with the aftermath of the events in Unity. But it should be noted that these are all part of an ongoing story (with the exception of Lives of Dax).
 
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