Definite New Series/Limited Series with Patrick Stewart Returning

[mos6507]

I agree that Star Trek has always been at its best when it's moved forward and not been stuck in the past.

Not so sure I agree with that. Trek has been about nostalgia ever since TMP came out (assuming one considers TAS more of a contemporary extension of TOS) and its biggest big-movie success was a continuation of a TOS episode shot some 15 or so years prior.

The movie franchise then went on to milk the TOS cast for six movies, most of them successful, despite the aging cast.

I find bringing Patrick Stewart back totally consistent with the above track-record.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Not so sure I agree with that. Trek has been about nostalgia ever since TMP came out (assuming one considers TAS more of a contemporary extension of TOS) and its biggest big-movie success was a continuation of a TOS episode shot some 15 or so years prior.

The movie franchise then went on to milk the TOS cast for six movies, most of them successful, despite the aging cast.

I find bringing Patrick Stewart back totally consistent with the above track-record.

that's an interesting take on this TNG news. if you think about it although they did their movies they did them straight after the series. so this long 15 year+ gap is comparable to TOS-TMP. and it'll be pretty much the first time there will have been much of a noticeable charge in appearance for TNG (or since FC anyway)

 

[jaime]

Wahlberg never really topped "Boggie Nights." "Entrouge" was kind of fun for what it was. Teenage/Hollywood male fantasy show but when you biggest claim to fame is playing a porn star with a big thingie and creating Escapism fantasy about the joys of having no responsibilites in a world were your biggest problem is figuring out if your going to get to the party in time or what movie your going to make next then it does limit one's mass appeal.

Jason

Ted

 

[Danlav05]

that's an interesting take on this TNG news. if you think about it although they did their movies they did them straight after the series. so this long 15 year+ gap is comparable to TOS-TMP. and it'll be pretty much the first time there will have been much of a noticeable charge in appearance for TNG (or since FC anyway)

I guess the Stewart news is reminiscent of Nimoy (and, rumoured only, Shat) appearing in Star Trek 2009, which was filmed a decade ago! I remember it very well, the talk, SDCC, announcements etc

I'm not expecting a TNG reunion, Picard mentoring a group of new people would be fine, however who else would you expect to see? Part of me is expecting Jonathan Frakes to be at least one of the directors, a good friend of Sir Patrick and already part of the team working on Discovery (I'm working on the assumption that some DSC folk will be working on this). I wonder if he'll put his old spacesuit back on (or rather a brand new one!) and play Riker once more? If it is a reunion I'd liek to see DS9 and VOY folk mixed in too.

And what of the aesthetic? Discovery was made in 2018 but set before TOS, TOS was made in 1966 and looks it, TNG looks 80s/90s etc. It will be nice to see Picard in a new environment as I feel the TNG look was outdated by 2002.

 

[Khan 2.0]

I guess the Stewart news is reminiscent of Nimoy (and, rumoured only, Shat) appearing in Star Trek 2009, which was filmed a decade ago! I remember it very well, the talk, SDCC, announcements etc

indeed and like that its around the same time period we heard the rumblings/announcements (1991-2006/7, 2002-2018)

I'm not expecting a TNG reunion, Picard mentoring a group of new people would be fine, however who else would you expect to see? Part of me is expecting Jonathan Frakes to be at least one of the directors, a good friend of Sir Patrick and already part of the team working on Discovery (I'm working on the assumption that some DSC folk will be working on this). I wonder if he'll put his old spacesuit back on (or rather a brand new one!) and play Riker once more? If it is a reunion I'd liek to see DS9 and VOY folk mixed in too.

if its to be a miniseries then its quite likely we'll see a proper TNG reunion (with the odd DS9/7of9 appearances) like happened with Xfiles, not so much trying to focus on new young cast like TFA (but they be there too of course in a decker/ilia/savvik/david capacity )

And what of the aesthetic? Discovery was made in 2018 but set before TOS, TOS was made in 1966 and looks it, TNG looks 80s/90s etc. It will be nice to see Picard in a new environment as I feel the TNG look was outdated by 2002.

since DSC and Kelvin have the JJ/lensflare/Apple look down maybe they'll have TNG Phase II looking different to that..maybe TNG meets all clean white 2001/TMP?

 

[Jedman67]

If they're doing a TNG reunion, I imagine that they"ll go back to the TNG look but updated with more modern detailing and lighting. Depends on when it takes place, obviously. If its set post-nemesis, then they"ll grab the Ent-E as a starting point. They"ll grab the Nemesis uniforms and add a bit more fine detail, some spackle and a fresh coat of paint, so to speak.
I really can't picture a feature film set post nemesis to gain much traction, and the actors are really too old to return to the main TNG series. A two parter mini-series or TV movie set during the TNG movie era (say just before nemesis?) or even set on the Ent D is slightly more plausible.
Nonetheless, I don't see that gaining any mass-market traction outside of the die hard fans, who will tear it apart.
What I find to be far more plausible is a TNG era reboot, with a Picard and a Riker etc, but with a totally new cast (but then whats the point? just make a sister show to DSC!)
An animated show aimed at older children, like Rebels or Clone Wars makes sense, but know thy audience.

TBH, if they're looking to expand the Discovery universe (considering how much money they've invested in it) there are better ways to do it.

 

[eschaton]

I don't think a full-on TNG reunion is plausible from a story standpoint. All of the TNG cast should be in the prime of their careers at this point, not serving together. Maybe they could have some story reason to get together and have cameos - like the anniversary of Data's death - but I think any well-crafted post TNG-story would really only plausibly have a role for Picard and maybe 1-2 other regulars of that era.

 

[Danlav05]

if its to be a miniseries then its quite likely we'll see a proper TNG reunion (with the odd DS9/7of9 appearances) like happened with Xfiles, not so much trying to focus on new young cast like TFA (but they be there too of course in a decker/ilia/savvik/david capacity

Hmmm now you mention Seven I wonder if they'll try the 'final battle against the Borg' thing once again?!

Books did it (Destiny) Comics did it (Hive) so this would be the THIRD attempt at the idea!!

 

[Jayson1]

I think we underestimate that it's Stewart and not just Picard they wanted to get. Stewart like Shatner has appeal away from Trek so that is why I think it will be Picard with mostly new people. Stewart alone will garner interest with people who aren't even Trek fans.

Jason

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Otherwise, I don't know what an X-Man is. I do know that Wolverine in the movies doesn't dress like the one in the comcibooks who wears a hooded mask that kind of reminds of Batman. I don't understand the significance of the knuckle knives and have no idea what his other powers are or what his team is, or anything like that) From what I've seen, Sir Patrick Stewart's character is wheelchair bound and, I guess, kind of their leader. If this brought him mass appeal somehow, surprise the shit out of me! The whole thing just seemed like more of the same, comicbook movie-wise to me. A bunch of people wearing rubber diving suits and funny masks flying around a maelstrom of bad CGI. And even then, though, wasn't that like ... years ago? Anyway, it's kind of hard to believe that kids would want to be the wheelchair-bound old guy, cosplaying as the X-Men.

Stewart played Xavier last year in a wildly popular movie that grossed over 600 million (despite being rated r) and earned an oscar nomination for best adapted screenplay. The one before that was in 2014 and made almost 750 million.

Also: https://www.pinterest.com/KharazanPrime/professor-x-cosplays/?lp=true

People know who Patrick Stewart is.

 

[Tom]

Stewart could just be voice in the new Cartoon series they want do.

As far as the look of a 'possible' new post-Nemesis show it would probably more like Discovery. Keep in mind that legally they have to make things look about 25 percent different than the previous Star Trek shows and movies (see the Discovery thread about the Enterprise for details) . I would love to see the E-E again but it's ether going to be a redesign, or they will just go with the new E-F that they can design anyway they want.

 

[mos6507]

In other words, they're gonna do the look WRONG yet again.

 

[jaime]

Stewart could just be voice in the new Cartoon series they want do.

As far as the look of a 'possible' new post-Nemesis show it would probably more like Discovery. Keep in mind that legally they have to make things look about 25 percent different than the previous Star Trek shows and movies (see the Discovery thread about the Enterprise for details) . I would love to see the E-E again but it's ether going to be a redesign, or they will just go with the new E-F that they can design anyway they want.

the twenty five percent thing was a nonsense, possibly related to marketing. There are zero copyright issues. Ting things have already been used as is in DSC.

 

[Jayson1]

In other words, they're gonna do the look WRONG yet again.

A new look won't matter because it will be set in the future thus any tech changes can be sold as technology always advancing. "Discovery" would have looked perfect fine as a post "Nemesis" show. Klingons would be a harder sale unless your going further into the future. Not sure of 15 years or so would be enough time to make them work.

Jason

 

[fireproof78]

A new look won't matter because it will be set in the future thus any tech changes can be sold as technology always advancing. "Discovery" would have looked perfect fine as a post "Nemesis" show. Klingons would be a harder sale unless your going further into the future. Not sure of 15 years or so would be enough time to make them work.

Jason

Exactly. The future is an unknown, which is a common enough argument I hear on the Discovery forum, that if they had set Discovery post-NEM then there wouldn't be as many problems with the look.

But, since there is the expectation of the look, and that it could be "wrong" then it demonstrates that production teams can't win for losing.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Stewart could just be voice in the new Cartoon series they want do.

As far as the look of a 'possible' new post-Nemesis show it would probably more like Discovery. Keep in mind that legally they have to make things look about 25 percent different than the previous Star Trek shows and movies (see the Discovery thread about the Enterprise for details) . I would love to see the E-E again but it's ether going to be a redesign, or they will just go with the new E-F that they can design anyway they want.

Pretty sure that was John Eaves being told to make it "25% different", guessing it was for legal reasons and being wrong and shutting down his Facebook for awhile. The Disco people sadly don't know why they're doing what they're told to do.

I'm expecting TNG 2.0 to look totally different, but simply because they can.

 

[Danlav05]

Pretty sure that was John Eaves being told to make it "25% different", guessing it was for legal reasons and being wrong and shutting down his Facebook for awhile. The Disco people sadly don't know why they're doing what they're told to do.

I'm expecting TNG 2.0 to look totally different, but simply because they can.

To be honest I thought the TNG look was a bit dated even by Nemesis (2002, 7 years before JJ put his film out)! We had 'Enterprise;' which was new. I love the LCARS but the Enterprise-E (which I love) looked tired, especially interior design.

Compared to otehr things at the time it felt like it needed to move on somewhat?

 

[Danlav05]

https://trekmovie.com/2018/07/04/ma...ts-return-to-star-trek-on-tv-is-just-a-rumor/

If it doesn't happen I'm blaming her (jk I'm not demented.) I think the sources seem very strong, especially Variety/THR

 

[1moreRobot]

To be honest I thought the TNG look was a bit dated even by Nemesis (2002, 7 years before JJ put his film out)! We had 'Enterprise;' which was new. I love the LCARS but the Enterprise-E (which I love) looked tired, especially interior design.

Compared to otehr things at the time it felt like it needed to move on somewhat?

The later appearances of the enterprise E always looked dated to me because if some of the then-current tech they were incorporating into the set. The scenes on the bridge with LCARS being displayed on low-res displays with horrible black levels just kill me. Same thing with the chunky desk terminals with all the air vents.

 

[Uhura's Song]

I would love a Picard mini-series. I loved TNG and thought the ending in the movies was not a fitting sendoff.

TNG reunion makes no sense. But some kind of show with Picard as the anchor (maybe 1-3 more TNG cast as regulars), some guest appearances, that tells a good story and can be used to pass the baton to a new post-Voyager/Nemesis show would be fantastic.

Would love if Frakes, Burton, or Dawson was involved on the production/direction side.