Several Starships ramming a Galaxy Class Dreadnaught (with full shields) would cripple or destroy the Galaxy. What's the difference?
Deep Space 9 Defenses
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The station wasn't designed for battles. What was geared on DS9 was appropriate. It's shocking since Jem Hedar was known to do kamikaze tactics in their 1st appearance never tried it again on a much larger target.
But the Galaxy was. If it could be destroyed by this, why do we assume DS9 has puny defenses just because it cannot beat a starship deisgned for battle?
What was the immediate threat that needed to be countered that would justify Starfleet bolstering the defenses of Starbase Deep Space Nine?
No one knew about the wormhole so that can't be used as a reason.
The immediate threat is the Cardassians. The station was once theirs, they might want it back attempt to take it by force. Then the station would need defenses to ward them off.
Except Babylon 5
Thats not what the thread is dsigmed to have people argue about; we are talking about DS9
RAMA stated a "fact" and a provided an example which this was, in fact, wrong and where the stationary thing defeated the mobile force
In "The Way of the Warrior", the stationary DS9 defeated the Klingons, destroying many of their moving ships in a few shots.
Because the Klingons were running with shields down due to the transporting of boarding parties
When the stations shields were still on (which would prevent Klingon beaming, so they would not lower their shields), the Birds Of Prey were still cut through like butter. Those deadly and powerful phasers came from a winning stationary force.
They concentrated on a part of the shields - punch a hole through, and its beam over happy time
Whilst backed by two equally mobile ships of the same capital class as those leading the attack, and a huge number of fighters.
Not to mention that the enemy were hamstrung because their orders were to capture B5 intact.
one knew
Why would the Cardassians want to take back a station that had abandoned only weeks ago? A Station now under Federation control, would they risk another war over something they had abandoned? If the Bajoran system still had something of value would they have abanded it?
Why would the Cardassians want to take back a station that had abandoned only weeks ago? A Station now under Federation control, would they risk another war over something they had abandoned? If the Bajoran system still had something of value would they have abanded it?
Ever watched "Emissary"?
The Cardassians attacked DS9. I think that constitutes an immediate threat.
That's pretty much the way I've always seen it. DS9 didn't appear to be a priority for Starfleet to start with. They didn't exactly throw resources at the station. The Chief Engineer wasn't an officer, the chief Medical Officer wasn't long out of training and the guy in charge was a relatively low ranking officer (Commander, whereas most Starbases seem to have an Admiral stationed on them) who was thinking about leaving Starfleet.
With the Cardassians withdrawing from the area, the Starfleet mission was basically humanitarian and diplomatic, as opposed to exploration or defense, so you can see why they didn't think the station needed to be heavily defended.
Yes I have watched it, remind me again why did they attack it?
Because of the events surrounding the discovery of the wormhole. Had the wormhole not been discocvered, then Dukat's ship would never have disappeared through it. Which led Jased to think the station had destroyed it which was part of the reason he attacked.
So remove the wormhole from the equation as it wasn't known about at the time, what reason would Starfleet have to throw resources at installing weapon on DSN. When Bajor was in more desperate need of humanitarian aid?
Bajor was of no strategic importance if it had any, I doubt the Cardassians's would have left.
There seems to be a big misreading of the famous Maginot Line scenario. Stationary defenses cannot stop a highly mobile invading force on their own. However, they are formidable when the object of the invading force is to confront the objects directly being protected by those defenses, including the defenses' own structures.
Yes they can. In "The Way of the Warrior" when the station beat the crap out of the Klingons (mostly BOPs).
