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Decanonization Time!

I think it's the minimalist aesthetic that sets it apart from the rest. The other bridges are busier, with more chairs and consoles surrounding the captain. The Enterprise-D just has these massive walls on either side that are basically bare. It's one of the reasons I like the Generations version of the bridge much more than the regular series version.

The minimalism is one of the ways in which the TNG bridge is "more futuristic" than the TOS bridge. The TOS bridge itself was relatively minimalistic, compared to practical real world controls of the era. Making the starship bridge more futuristic along that axis means to up that game and make it even more minimalistic. To me, what this is really saying is that e.g. the VOY bridge is not as futuristic as the TNG bridge.
 
The minimalism is one of the ways in which the TNG bridge is "more futuristic" than the TOS bridge. The TOS bridge itself was relatively minimalistic, compared to practical real world controls of the era. Making the starship bridge more futuristic along that axis means to up that game and make it even more minimalistic. To me, what this is really saying is that e.g. the VOY bridge is not as futuristic as the TNG bridge.
Oh, i'm not arguing that the Ent-D bridge doesn't look futuristic. I'm just agreeing with @Tallguy that it's very much a unique aesthetic that was never followed up on by later designs. Every other main bridge, at least in live action, definitely abandoned the organic minimalist look in favour of the more traditional TOS Style.
 
Oh, i'm not arguing that the Ent-D bridge doesn't look futuristic. I'm just agreeing with @Tallguy that it's very much a unique aesthetic that was never followed up on by later designs. Every other main bridge, at least in live action, definitely abandoned the organic minimalist look in favour of the more traditional TOS Style.

I can't argue with that!
 
I simply don’t understand this. It is drama.
I dont get it either. Garak was tame compared to the many straight up villains Ive seen become popular eg: Darth Vader and Hannibal Lector.

To me its no contest between Garak and Geiorguo. One was well written and interesting while the other....simply wasn't.
 
Because it is a drama designed to engage its audience. Not be a guide to morality. It is supposed to make you periodically think. Maybe think about how you’d react in those character’s shoes.
Maybe I should.


But since I was told Star Trek is a guide to morality and not a dumb action franchise then it's harder to take seriously Garak being valued as a character and championed as the potential lead for a show.

Yes, my dumb brain doesn't get it. I've watched dramas with horrible characters and it leaves me disgusted (see Gianni Schicchi).

But Star Trek gets elevated so it feels like a double standard.

Cue the mocking and eye rolling over my overthinking.
 
But since I was told Star Trek is a guide to morality and not a dumb action franchise then it's harder to take seriously Garak being valued as a character and championed as the potential lead for a show.

Why would he not be valued as a character? Somewhat redeemed, even? Certainly he does not get a happily ever after ending.

You know Javert is not meant as a role model, right?
 
But since I was told Star Trek is a guide to morality and not a dumb action franchise then it's harder to take seriously Garak being valued as a character and championed as the potential lead for a show.

Maybe not listen to the internet.

A show with only correct moral choices would be incredibly bland and would quickly lose its audience and credibility.

Understanding people who grew up in different cultures is one of the bridges we will have to cross if we ever want to be better.
 
Why would he not be valued as a character? Somewhat redeemed, even? Certainly he does not get a happily ever after ending.

You know Javert is not meant as a role model, right?
He gets to go to work in rebuilding Cardassia, sees his enemies driven before him and his nemesis killed by a proxy.

He might not a role model but he's not enjoyable to watch either.

Maybe not listen to the internet.

A show with only correct moral choices would be incredibly bland and would quickly lose its audience and credibility.

Understanding people who grew up in different cultures is one of the bridges we will have to cross if we ever want to be better.
I would welcome such a show.
 
Yet, IIRC, you’re openly okay with Empress Georgiou getting a redemption arc.

Seems a bit contradictory.
I think it has potential to be good because it's in line with what TOS presented the Mirror Universe as being. It espouses the ideal of human growth and potential. Perhaps not redemption but choosing to not kill today.

But, I did not think she should headline a show nor did I think her murdering people was justified the way Garak gets justified.
 
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